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Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:55 am
by Basra-
Ok... :roll: after .....an "after-thought"....i manage to come back and grade the poem. I give it a solid A-. It would have been an A plus had not the contents or sentiment of the poem annoyed me for about 33 seconds. :x But to be fair,as far as the creativity and prose of the poem is concerned, it is brilliant. An Absolute magnificent work. But too bad that the truth that somali woman foe is a slave industry, was included in the content. :|

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:19 am
by Basra-
:roll: After careful re-reading i am inclined to believe Grant, that this was written by a white man. Although, i DO NOT agree it was written for a fellow white man. So Yippie, for not agreeing with the octogenarian 100%! :clap:


" I
know neither king nor master. I am as
Adam was, my own master and king."



This quote is clearly written by a white man or any other man who has been ruled by a master of a king.(in this case, lets stick with the white man theory, i can't imagine an adoon who has been 'mastered' writing this spectacular prose). I am inclined to believe a white man who has travelled to somalia.

A somali camel man with : "wrapped from head to foot in my snow-white or jungle coloured
tobe" .....does not have a point of reference to a king or a master. But an English man has. In a way, this writer is reporting an admiration of the freedom of the somali man. In a way, the british is saying- a somali man is free-er than a subject of the royal king. :lol:



But lets not kid ourselves here.It all could be written by a grandiose-self faanis-isaaq man who is first in contact with the 'civilized subjects of the british royalness" of course.Words like "look & majestic" shows extreme self love, which a somali is reputed to have! Again, The effusive Faaniss word usage in the poem hints a proud camel farah, guessingly--an isaaq sarvant or servant who in ebulient mood of euphoria was spewing superiority, chauvinism & somali nationality!. (apologies to my qabil omen)

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:36 am
by CoolPoisons
basra are U right in the head


goed poem and its true. somali women were like property 100 years so why yall suprised

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:45 am
by Grant
I simply cannot believe there was ever an afSomali version of that drivel. It was printed in an American paper in 1903. How could it have been intended for anybody other than Cadaans? That is a white man's view of what the Somali men were gettig away with. Darned envious if you ask me. :mrgreen:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:52 am
by Twisted_Logic
Current Literature: A Magazine of Contemporary Record

Vol. XXXV., No.5
November, 1903



The plan of the new campaign for the suppression of the Mohammedan tribes of Somaliland that are in revolt, under the "Mad Mullah" against British authority is similar to that which failed last year. The base of the operations is Obbia in Italian Somaliland. The first campaign failed in consequence of insufficent transport facilities. The British forces in command of General Egerton, will be aided by those of Abyssinia. Large bodies of King Menelek's troops are to hold the wells of Galadi and Mudug.

Naturally, considerable uncertainity exists as to the Mullah's plan of operations. He has been moving from point to point in the enterior and, if reports are trustworthy, committing depredations in various localities.

The discovery that supplies of arms and ammunition has gone from an English exporter to be sold for use by the Mullah against the British and Abyssinian soldoery created considerable indignation in England some time since.

The "preposterous conceit" of the Somali natives shown by the translation of a song or chant which has been published in an English paper. It runs as follow:

Will you see a man? Then behold me!
I am a Somali, as perfect in size and form
as Adam was, after God had breathed
into him his immortal soul. Look how
beautiful my curly hair is, and how majestic
I look when wrapped from head to
foot in my snow-white or jungle coloured
tobe, although there be sometimes only
one pie (a small piece of money) tied to
it. My house is the desert, and I am
born a free man. Free as the wind. I
know neither king nor master. I am as
Adam was, my own master and king. In
the jungle I tend my camels and sheep;
my only labour is to watch them feed.
In my kerrier, my wife, my dear slave,
does all the manual work, while tending
my offspring, and woe to her if she forgets
tp prepare my evening meal. The
jeedal (whip) shall then have its turn to
make her remember for next day. In
such a state is any man happier than I?


http://books.google.com/books?id=fLYGAQ ... 4-PA532,M1

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:59 am
by Grant
Translation, my ass! That was pure and simple propaganda to show off the Somalis' "preposterous conceit". It's the same sort of propaganda the British used in WWI, when they didn't change the German word "kadaver" when referring to what the Germans were eating. The Germans meant dead horses, but the british public didn't understand that.... :P :P

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:01 pm
by Twisted_Logic
Grant wrote:Translation, my ass! That was pure and simple propaganda to show off the Somalis' "preposterous conceit". It's the same sort of propaganda the British used in WWI, when they didn't change the German word "kadaver" when referring to what the Germans were eating. The Germans meant dead horses, but the british public didn't understand that.... :P :P


Could very well be.

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:06 pm
by CoolPoisons
Grant U dumb oversized white hilbily

are U mad that the poem's showing Somali's independence and that they were never colonized. get the fock outa. this a Somali forum bijj not a hilbily white supremacist forum

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:07 pm
by Grant
CoolPoisons wrote:Grant U dumb oversized white hilbily

are U mad that the poem's showing Somali's independence and that they were never colonized. get the fock outa. this a Somali forum bijj not a hilbily white supremacist forum


It will help if you learn to read. :mrgreen:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:10 pm
by Twisted_Logic
CoolPoisons wrote:Grant U dumb oversized white hilbily

are U mad that the poem's showing Somali's independence and that they were never colonized. get the fock outa. this a Somali forum bijj not a hilbily white supremacist forum


Dude, this is uncalled for :down:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:56 pm
by Basra-
Coolpoison aka Cilmiile....Can i be your property? :kiss:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:58 pm
by CoolPoisons
Basra- wrote:Coolpoison aka Cilmiile....Can i be your property? :kiss:


^^ If Ur into S&M. i always had this weird fantasy starting with vaseline, a baseball bat and a rope

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:04 pm
by Basra-
[quote="CoolPoisons"][quote="Basra-"]Coolpoison aka Cilmiile....Can i be your property? :kiss:[/quote]

^^ If Ur into S&M. i always had this weird fantasy starting with vaseline, a baseball bat and a rope[/quote]


:clap: :clap:


Coolpoison?? How can u combine the personality of Cawar & yourself? One is a jiggolo lover & this other one is a marehaan domestic abuser! :roll:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:10 pm
by Grant
Can't be Cilmille. Cilmille is familiar with Somali history. :lol:

Re: A 1903 Somali chant

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:26 pm
by CoolPoisons
Grant Ur a 60 year old white man browsing somali forum

if U aint jaajus then what the fock are U