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Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:02 pm
by Alexxx
Voltage,

^ So it's official neither the English nor the Arabic version of the book ascertain the theory that Ahmed Gurey was a Somali. In addition, the renouned historian Richard Pankhrust, whom you often mentioned in your posts NEVER claimed Ahmed Gurey was a Somali.

Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:15 am
by Voltage
Alexxx wrote:Voltage,

^ So it's official neither the English nor the Arabic version of the book ascertain the theory that Ahmed Gurey was a Somali. In addition, the renouned historian Richard Pankhrust, whom you often mentioned in your posts NEVER claimed Ahmed Gurey was a Somali.


Ask your Habeshi daddy who Ahmed Gurey was. :)

Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:03 am
by Rampage
All sources should be used to reach a consensus not rely entirely on the Futah. Two man standing apart can have wide differing opinions about the same single instance.


I definitely agree with the above statement. I was just trying to clear it on the Futuh front, since it is the greatest source of information about the wars witnessed firsthand by the author himself. It is important to continue unearthing new sources related to the Imaam or even the wider history of the region, it really is. And it saddens me that we cant at this moment afford to bring real anthropologists and archeologists onboard but I am hoping with time it should be possible. I really think there are great discoveries to be made in Somalia not only relating to our past but to that of all humanity as well.

Its really been interesting reading this topic, but this tribal approach will not get us anywhere. We have some really good researchers in here, why not ignore our tribal differences and start a circle that searches and stores historical information related to all of Somalia and not just their respective regions? Because that my friends will be awesome.

Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:18 am
by ina aadan
war arintani way dheerataye yaa ku abtirsada ninkan
ileen sikale laysku afgaranwaaye caruurna wuu dhalaye
iyo ninku ma soomalibaa mise canfar

Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:30 am
by Somaliman50
Advo, what Voltage suggested was based on theory. So unless he can bring us a direct quote from that book where the Imam is explicitly said to be Marehan, i will only agree with this notion and no further.

His clan is debatable, but the idea he is not Somali is not. Even the Ethiopian record has him as a Somali
.

As for now, you can shut the f*ck up and stop spreading lies :up:

Re: The Conquest of Abyssinia

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:43 am
by Voltage
Rampage wrote:
All sources should be used to reach a consensus not rely entirely on the Futah. Two man standing apart can have wide differing opinions about the same single instance.


I definitely agree with the above statement. I was just trying to clear it on the Futuh front, since it is the greatest source of information about the wars witnessed firsthand by the author himself. It is important to continue unearthing new sources related to the Imaam or even the wider history of the region, it really is. And it saddens me that we cant at this moment afford to bring real anthropologists and archeologists onboard but I am hoping with time it should be possible. I really think there are great discoveries to be made in Somalia not only relating to our past but to that of all humanity as well.

Its really been interesting reading this topic, but this tribal approach will not get us anywhere. We have some really good researchers in here, why not ignore our tribal differences and start a circle that searches and stores historical information related to all of Somalia and not just their respective regions? Because that my friends will be awesome.


I definitely agree sxb. In hindsight, you can be sure I am not particularly proud I contributed to the pervertization of good history that should be categorized under the Somali banner and nothing short of that.

Your last paragraph is especially meaningful and I think you should definitely approach your fellow English countrymen Warsame101 to begin such a venture in this very forum.