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Islamic Question?

Postby Advo » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:25 pm

Anybody familiar with this xadiith?

The Prophet said, "Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one." [Muslim, Narrated AbuDharr: "...The black dog is a devil."]

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Executive » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:30 pm

"The black dog is a devil"

I have heard that before but i thought it was from a Daciif hadith :|

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Advo » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:33 pm

Same here wallahi, it's something that doesnt make sense to me and I couldnt let it slide.

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Macaaney_1991 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:35 pm

Image
Cute,

but Satanic???? :shock:

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby surrender » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:35 pm

i havent come across this hadith but heard that black dogs are shadhaan in disguise, so when you see one, say acuudu bilaahi mina shaydhaani rajiim! :up:

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Ka darag » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:39 pm

wat about black cts??????? they scare me too :|

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby FAH1223 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:48 pm

i thought it was about Hyenas

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby ModerateMuslim » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:51 pm

according to my favorite shaykh, shaykh google ibn search, this hadith has been abrogated, i.e. no longer valid.

Muslim vol. I, no. 552; vol.II,nos.3803,3829 concerning dogs and in particular black dogs

The command to kill dogs was abrogated and its reason in the first place is given further below.

In Sahih Muslim, Book 4, Number 1032:

Abd Allah ibn al-Samit said: Abu Dharr said: The Messenger of Allah said: "When one of you stands in prayer, what definitely constitutes a barrier for him is an object placed in front of him of the same height as the back of a camel-saddle. If it is not in front of him and of the same height as the back of a camel-saddle, then some [stray] donkey, or some woman passing, or some black dog will cut off his prayer." I said: "O Abu Dharr! What is it that makes a black dog different from a red or yellow dog?" He replied: "O dear cousin! I asked the Messenger of Allah the exact same question. He said that the black dog is a devil."

Notes on the legal rulings based on this hadith and its meaning:

The passing of the above-mentioned in front of the person at prayer does not invalidate his prayer according to the vast majority of the Imams of Law, Salaf and Khalaf (early and late authorities) who concur that the meaning of "will cut off his prayer" is not literal but means: "will make his prayer imperfect" due to the distraction they will cause in people's hearts, while Imam Ahmad considered that only the passing of a black dog actually invalidates it. This was mentioned by Imam al-Nawawi in Sharh Sahih Muslim and al-Mubarakfuri in Tuhfa al-Ahwadhi.

Some of the narrations mention "the dog that bites indiscriminately" (al-kalb al-`aqur). Others: "The jet-black dog" (al-kalb al-aswad al-bahim). The gist of the reference seems to be that a wild-looking dog, or one known to be dangerous, has the greatest potential for distracting attention. The black dog is a devil either literally, i.e. a favored form for a devil to take among animals, or figuratively with respect to its negative aspects whatever these may be; and Allah knows best.

Here is another answer concerning dogs in general:

"Regarding killing dogs, the Hadith is authentic and quoted in numerous books of Ahaadith. In the pre-Islamic era, dogs were an inseparable part of the Arabs. The negative instincts of dogs have crept into their lives. Rasulullah came to reform them and in order to achieve that, he had to separate them from the inseparable, that is, dogs. He had to create a resentment of dogs in their hearts by emphasising in strongest terms like killing. He also ordered to wash the utensils seven times from which a dog drank.

"After the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu ?nhu) understood the order and resented dogs, separated them from their daily activities, he said [= he made it understood], 'I have no problem with dogs'. He granted leniency in washing the utensils from 7 times to 3 times. After all, using hunting dogs is permissible and [dogs are] mentioned in the Qurân.

And Allah Taâla Knows Best.

Was salaam

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Buhodle-Gurl » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:52 pm

tHis hadith does not apply to some people. :| like, I never took a liFe. How am I suppose to kill a big walking black dog? :|
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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby LaQaNyO » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:58 pm

Somali-Star wrote:according to my favorite shaykh, shaykh google ibn search, this hadith has been abrogated, i.e. no longer valid.



What the hell...

Abowe I am scared stiff when it comes to dogs and to be honest with you I know nothing else about them...

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby snoop12 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:03 pm

Macaaney_1991 wrote:Image
Cute,

but Satanic???? :shock:


:shock: this dog is scary

in general i hate dogs but the one on the pic is just SCARY :lol:

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:08 pm

Its mentioned that some jinns take the form of black dogs.

For anyone interested in learning about the world of jinn and devils, read this book:

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/b ... Devils.pdf

:up:

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby ms.naliaa » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:10 pm

I love black cats!

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Re: Islamic Question?

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:21 pm

Killing black dogs goes against the teaching of quran,so please throw away the false hadith :arrow:


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