Voltage. Ahmed Gran era Somalis were just foot soldiers

[Grant]

It all goes back to the Futuh. Scroll down to "ethnicity":

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:Ax ... clnk&gl=us

Also:

"While acknowledging that many modern Somali nationalists consider Ahmad a national hero, Henze dismisses their claims, stating that the concept of a Somali nation did not exist during Ahmad's lifetime."

Now, let's try this quote from the previous link, again:

" Moreover, in the Arab chronicle (Basset, ibid. 72), the surname of left-handed is not given to the Imam, but to a Habar Magaadi Somali with the same name of the imam, Ahmed Guray b. Husayn al-Somali. Lewis (1980) skirts this historical fact, in writing, not without ambiguity:

The Marrehan and the Habar Magadle [Magaadi] also play a very prominent role (...) The text refers to two Ahmad's with the nickname "Left-handed". One is regularly presented as "Ahmad Guray, the Somali" (...) identified as Ahmad Guray Xuseyn, chief of the Habar Magadle. Another reference, however, appears to link the Habar Magadle with the Marrehan. The other Ahmad is simply refered to as "Imam Ahmad" or Simply the "Imam". This Ahmad is not qualified by the adjective Somali (...) The two Ahmad's have been conflated into one figure, the heroic Ahmed Guray (...)."

[Voltage]

I agree with the top analyzation that the identiy was a Muslim identity (which I am proud of) and a not a Somali identity in those wars, you can go back to my statements over time and quote that.

Everything else is stuff and nonsense. The opinion blabberings of a Habesha blogster who can't even critically read.

[Rightwing]

**********************************[The Somali tribes reach harar]*************

The first of the tribes to reach the Imam was Habar Magaadle with their lord and chieftain Ahmed Girii bin Husain, the Somali. They encamped in place called Qasa in the heights above the valley of Harar. They showed off their equipment and their weapons, and paraded their horses. They were knights and what knights! And they were foot-soldiers: and what foot-soldiers! The imam rejioced at their arrival exceedingly. They met the imam face to face, and he welcomed them with warmest of welcomes. He gave them gifts of apparel, and provisions, and treated them graciously, garbing their chieftain, Ahmed Girri, in particulary exquisite clothing.

Aftern them was it was the tribe of GERRI who came up. their chieftain, was MATTAN bin UTMAN KALED, the Somali. They Showed of their weaponry and armour, paraded their horses and their bows slung sash-like over theirshoulders as they met the Imam face to face. He commanded them then to go a head place called SIM. Their chieftain had brought with him his wife, FARDUSA, THE SISTER OF THE IMAM and he set out ahead, he and his army.

Then the tribe of ZABRA came up after them. Their chieftain was the Sultan Mohammed son of the paternal aunt of the IMAM with him were one-thousand-and sixty notable infantry, and forty knights. The imam made them welcome and showed his favour. He{Sultan Muhammed} resided at HARAR. The IMAM was exceedingly delighted at this and gave thanks to the most high God.

The army camped around the city, with each tribe being kept apart from the others. The tribe of MARRAIHAM was, however, wavering. Their chieftain was a man fond of intrigue and procrastination. Extremly wily, he loved double-dealing and swindles. The Imam organised some of his soldiers and went to the Marriahan and confronted Hirabu and his tribe and said to him "why are lagging behind in coming on the jihad? Hirabu complained about his plight, and excused himself on the grounds of his poverty-stricken state.
The Imam accepted his excuse, and then said to him, But no good will come to you from just wishing[that things will improve] Theruopon Hirabu appointed his nephew to command the Marriahan and they rallied around the imam-ninety cavalry and more than seven-hundred foot-soldiers-with Hirabu bringing up the rear. The imam went back to his city of Harar , taking the tribe of Marriaham with him.

To be continue

[Voltage]

Everyone and their mom who in this forum read the Futah already sxb.

[Ducaysane_87]

Righting - Habar Magadi - wa the 4 sons right - Ismail , Ayub ,Arap ,Awal - although some isaaqs say awal had separate mother

[Rightwing]

Righting - Habar Magadi - wa the 4 sons right - Ismail , Ayub ,Arap ,Awal - although some isaaqs say awal had separate mother

Haa waa afartaa



by Voltage » 28 minutes ago

Everyone and their mom who in this forum read the Futah already sxb.

Sxb aniga hadaa iigu horeysa dee

[Voltage]

O.k sxb, carry on.

[Rightwing]

O.k sxb, carry on.

Merci beaucoup