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The Khawaarij/Kharijites are good people

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The Khawaarij/Kharijites are good people

Postby paidmonk » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:06 am

Traditional Sunni Islam is very anti-Kharijite because of the early civil war they waged, but I'm actually inclined to support these guys.

Below is a description I gathered, and granted its from Wikipedia, I'm sure someone can verify this:

Whereas the Shiites believed that the imamate (leadership) was the sole right of the house of Ali, the Kharijites insisted that any pious and able Muslim could be a leader of the Muslim community. And whereas the Sunnis believed that the imam's impiousness did not, by itself, justify sedition, the Kharijites insisted on the right to revolt against any ruler who deviated from the example of the Prophet Muhammad and the first two caliphs, Abu Bakr and Umar. From this essentially political position, the Kharijites developed a variety of theological and legal doctrines that further set them apart from both Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

Kharijites were also known historically as the Shurat (Ar: الشُراة), literally meaning "the buyers" and understood within the context of Islamic scripture and philosophy to mean "those who have traded the mortal life (aldunya) for the other life [with god] (alakhera), which, unlike the term "Kharijite", was one that many Kharijites used to describe themselves. The only surviving group, the Ibāḍī of Oman, Zanzibar and North Africa, reject the "Kharijite" appellation and refer to themselves as ahl al-'adl wal istiqama (أهل العدل و الاستقامة) ("people of justice and uprightness").


I'd consider myself politically and socially a leftist/socialist/borderline-communist and so these guys naturally appeal to me. And their description does accurately match a lot of the so-called "Salafi" groups like Al Qaeda (if they even exist) or the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt or Hamas or Al-Shabaab or the Taliban and virtually every other currently-active Sunni-Salafi political and armed movement - would you not agree?

I'm confused by this a little bit, virtually all current pious/fundamentalist Sunni Muslims who describe themselves as anywhere near political fall in the same thought process as the Kharijites. They all want to overthrow current Muslim rulers (Saudi royal family, Hosni Mubarak, Mahmoud Abbas, Sharif Ahmed...the list goes on forever) in favor of more pious leaders chosen by the public.

Someone clarify this for me because it seems like today, Salafism & Islamic Military and overall Revivalism is virtually a nickname for Kharijism.

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Re: The Khawaarij/Kharijites are good people

Postby Voltage » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:08 am

Danbi ha gelin. This is pure ignorance speaking. Khawiirij are the people labeled Sayduna Cali a "murtad". All scholars conclude these guys are wrong and we should have nothing to do with them.

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Re: The Khawaarij/Kharijites are good people

Postby paidmonk » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:10 am

My only point is that these guys fall in the same line of thought as all the militant & or political Islamic movements around the world.

I posted a short description and that's why I'm going by for now. I've read more about them and religiously they're identical to Sunnis besides the short political schism early on.

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Re: The Khawaarij/Kharijites are good people

Postby Voltage » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:12 am

a leftist/socialist/borderline-communist


I found myself in the same position. Don't you question WHAT is wrong with socialism and equalizing the playing field sometimes? When I first started delving into this, I kept asking myself "so what is wrong with socialism/borderline communism". :lol: Not to say I don't support free enterprise but I also am very supportive of socialism and leftist politics. :lol: :lol:


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