Somalia Please Solve Our Problem. Federalism.

usman-84 · Postby **usman-84** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:34 am

I urge somalis to get behind federalism because it in the interest of all our ppl. Puntland needs to get strong federal laws in place so we can continue on our rebuilding of the land. We have 99 year lease contract hafza investments who is building railways, skyscrapers, central business districts in the coastal regions of our towns...puntland is moving forward and we need to get recognized federal laws so hafza can continue its project. Hafza is one of many projects that is happening but we can't continue if somalia doesn't agree upon the government system it wants.

You can read about hafza investments stopped its project work because somalia and puntland laws are not being internationally recognized. We need to sit down and sort this mess out and follow the federal policy and then hafza investments can get back in and finish the jobs..of skyscrapers,airports in every region, railway thru puntland, tourism hotels of the coast..its huge 99 year lease agreement..because it will take a long time...but it cant move forward if the federal laws and puntland laws are not in unity and agreement..we don't want war anymore abahin wase we want peace and horumar..lets solve our mess and adop federalism and everyone build their own regions..if u leave ppl alone in their regions they will do their own thing..intaas miyaa shacabka somaliyeed laga waaye...

http://www.hafza.com/page108.html

usman-84 · Postby **usman-84** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:37 am

Ras Hafun future in 99 year contact with hafza...

Bossaso under hafza investment in 99 years time agreement

Railway punt

verify below
http://www.hafza.com/

Khalid Ali · Postby **Khalid Ali** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:42 am

Federal systems are often used for country’s with different ethnic groups religion culture just like the former Yugoslavia and Current Ethiopia, but a country as Somalia it will never work, Somalis are used to central government that controls the whole country,can u imagine A federal puntland and galmudug and jubbaland when they have their differences with The central government what do you think they would do. Lets say if Mogadishu becomes peaceful I don’t think any one would want to live in hot bossaso or inkaar mudug , every one wants to go back to Tropical Mogadishu , so how’s this federal thing going to work Don’t believe what you hear cusmano, Abdilahi yusuf tried to use a federal system on Somalia in 2004 but he never said where the federal states where in Somalia , it was just a way of seeking power nothing else.

usman-84 · Postby **usman-84** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:46 am

khalid we cant move forward sxb, investors stop projects that can change ppl lives because their is no internationally recognized system in the country...we need to adopt to federalism as farole has been sayng for long time and all the time he says it..without federalism and puntland laws working togther and recognized by the international community...the project wont continue hafza said on reforming all cities of puntland into skyscrapers.

usman-84 · Postby **usman-84** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:50 am

khalid sxb we dont want war no more..it hasnt solved anything but destroyed us..we want horumar and without somalia agreeing on something which is recognized by the world investors wont come and make the ppls lives better..federalism is better because we should leave ppl to themselves in their region..u know my father used to go from garowe when he was 15 and had to go mogadishu to get an education...haq miyay aheed taas? or how about not 1 infrastructure in puntland under siyad except the main-road..haq miyay aheed taas..we had to rebuild from nothing..and we dont want that to happen again all the resources invested into hamar..

sxb u see south..how many airports do they have..marka, hamar, kismayo, beledogle, and many more..xaq miyay ahayd waxaas hell no xaq ma ahayn...but we have forgiven and we will move on but we will not return to such disastrous system...decentralization is the only way..

Postby **FAH1223** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:55 am

United States of America :up:

GENERAL_SNM · Postby **GENERAL_SNM** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:56 am

Keep on crying crocodile tears. Every Hawiye will have to be wiped out before you guys can set foot in xamer and I cant say I disagree with them. Its your fault your not allowed in the capital or the second capital of somalia, go and live in peace with your brothers in Kismayo the third city.. :mrgreen:

AhlulbaytSoldier · Postby **AhlulbaytSoldier** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:02 am

The correct wording is tribal federalism. :up:

usman-84 · Postby **usman-84** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:03 am

general snm..puntland policy towards darod investment in hamar, if they want to go back and live there they have the right to. Hamar qof naga horeyo ma jirto adeer, but the point is we cant ever go back to the centralized system because all resources will be unevenly shared and regions will lose it. That is why federalism, everyone stay your own region and build yourself...and the federal government just involves itself when its to do with national interest.

Fah, united states of somalia, it is the perfect description of federalism. :mrgreen:

Postby **FAH1223** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:10 am

federalism seems like a good idea but somalis have it all wrong

federal states dont have their own military, they don't have their own currency, and they don't monopolozie off of anarchy in the absence of a federal government

GENERAL_SNM · Postby **GENERAL_SNM** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:13 am

usman-84 wrote:general snm..puntland policy towards darod investment in hamar, if they want to go back and live there they have the right to. Hamar qof naga horeyo ma jirto adeer, but the point is we cant ever go back to the centralized system because all resources will be unevenly shared and regions will lose it. That is why federalism, everyone stay your own region and build yourself...and the federal government just involves itself when its to do with national interest.

Fah, united states of somalia, it is the perfect description of federalism.

The point is you CANT go back to xamer without Hawiye say so unless you feel brave enough to take it on your on without ethoipian help. I know Mudug/Bari is hot as hell but look at it another way, it might be a sign from our creator to not abuse your status as guests in the future.. :clap:

FAH, homboy this federalism sh!t that this fool speaks of doesn't mean what normal people call federalism. What he wants is for his group to keep all their money and land for themselves and for them then to share xamar and all the Hawiye lands. In short it means I will eat my cake and share yours with you. I will dictate your policy with you but you have no say in anything concerning my region...

gemini07 · Postby **gemini07** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:22 am

General SNM

Dadka Xamar iyo Koonfurta kale kasoo barakacay Puntland baa lagu soo dhoweeyay.

Weey ku ganacsadaan Puntland ,amni iyo kalsoonii beey nagu qabaan .Waxaa aad sheegisid waxna kama jiraan :arrow:

Postby **Shirib** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:22 am

Strong central government :up:

Ducaysane_87 · Postby **Ducaysane_87** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:23 am

Shirib wrote:Strong central government

central government wont be ever trusted

gemini07 · Postby **gemini07** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:24 am

Ducaysane_87 wrote:

central government wont be ever trusted

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