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Has The Obama Adminstration Taken A Right Approch Towards...

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:58 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
Has The Obama Adminstration Taken A Right Approch Towards Somalia?

Off to Africa, Clinton to pledge new Somali aid

Sunday, August 02, 2009


WASHINGTON — On a seven-nation tour of Africa this week, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will pledge more U.S. assistance, including military aid, to Somalia's shaky government as it fights for survival against Islamist extremists.

U.S. officials say the Obama administration plans to go ahead with additional weapons supplies to double an initial provision of 40 tons of arms. The U.S. also has begun a low-profile mission to help train Somali security forces in neighboring Djibouti, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivities surrounding U.S. involvement in the program.

Clinton will see Somalia's beleaguered interim president, Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed, on Thursday in Kenya, the first stop on her trip. She intends to reaffirm American backing of Ahmed's Transitional Federal Government.

Clinton's meeting with Sheik Ahmed comes at critical juncture for Somalia, which has not had a functioning government since 1991 and is home to a growing radical Islamist movement known as al-Shabab. The group, which U.S. officials say has links to al-Qaida, was designated a terrorist organization by Washington last year.

It's not clear if Clinton will make a specific contribution at the meeting. The administration's top diplomat for Africa, Johnnie Carson, said last week that "we are prepared to provide additional assistance to the (Somali) government." Carson added that the U.S. would also continue to support a small African Union peacekeeping force manned by soldiers from Uganda and Burundi.

Carson did not elaborate on the assistance. Other officials said a second batch of up to 40 tons of new weaponry, added to 40 tons that arrived over the past several months, will come from stockpiles held by African militaries. The United States would pay for it, officials said.

One senior official said the Pentagon, which has a base at Camp Lemonier in Djibouti, is providing facilities such as tents for the training and is assisting with logistics.

Officials say the U.S. military is not conducting the training and will not put any forces in Somalia. The administration is making a concerted effort to avoid putting any American footprint in Somalia, which would risk alienating allies and add to charges by Islamic extremists of a Western takeover.

Djibouti is one of several nations mentioned as willing to help train Somalia's rudimentary police and military.

Last week, the European Union agreed in principle to send military advisers to Djibouti to train Somali forces in counterinsugency and anti-piracy tactics. In mid-July, two French security advisers in the country to train Somali security forces were abducted from and a hotel in Mogadishu, the Somali capital.

Al-Shabab has claimed responsibility and said they would be tried under Islamic law for alleged spying and "conspiracy against Islam."

Violence in Somalia has surged in recent years, catapulting the nation into the top 10 most violent countries in the world for the past two years, according to the National Counterterrorism Center. NCTC data, which covers attacks against civilians or noncombatants, shows that there were 767 terrorism-related deaths in 2007 and nearly 2,000 in 2008.

Only three countries saw more killings in 2008 — Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The Somali government holds only a few blocks in Mogadishu, with support from the peacekeepers, although it still controls the port, the airport and key government buildings. The top U.N. envoy for Somalia said last week that the country is at a "turning point" and in desperate need of international support, especially military equipment, training and money.

At the same time, the Somali coast has seen a surge in piracy. Hijackers have carried out hundreds of attacks this year, including one in April involving an American cargo ship that ended with U.S. naval intervention. Somali pirates are currently holding for ransom about a dozen vessels.

In addition to voicing support for the Somali government, officials said Clinton will also take aim at Eritrea, a small Red Sea state that the United States and United Nations accuse of supporting the Islamists with money and weapons. Eritrea denies the charges but questions the legitimacy of Sheik Ahmed's government.

"Somalia is a place where they have been spoilers," Carson said of the Eritrean government. The U.S. and U.N. Security Council have threatened to punish Eritrea.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, warned last week that Eritrea has only a "small window" of time to change policy or face penalties.

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Re: Is The Obama Adminstration Taken A Right Approch Towards....

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:18 pm
by FAH1223
It doesn't really matter, its the same approach every administration before Obama has taken...support the "TFGs" or the warlords to fight "terrorism"


and they always support the weaker side... its not conducive for building a somali state

but so much time has passed now that you have Islamists who are way more extreme, less pragmatic than the UIC (even with their mistakes) and don't have a clue about actually governing... they hold southern somalia but governance over a period of time has eluded groups that have pacified areas due to whatever reasons be it the Ethiopians with the UIC or other splinters or w.e

Re: Is The Obama Adminstration Taken A Right Approch Towards....

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:51 pm
by Kanada
FAH1223 wrote:It doesn't really matter, its the same approach every administration before Obama has taken...support the "TFGs" or the warlords to fight "terrorism"


and they always support the weaker side... its not conducive for building a somali state

but so much time has passed now that you have Islamists who are way more extreme, less pragmatic than the UIC (even with their mistakes) and don't have a clue about actually governing... they hold southern somalia but governance over a period of time has eluded groups that have pacified areas due to whatever reasons be it the Ethiopians with the UIC or other splinters or w.e


Orly?

Re: Has The Obama Adminstration Taken A Right Approch Towards...

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:59 pm
by nomadicwarlord
There has to be some sort of accountability with the current TFG since there are alot of weapons involved here. Obama administration move will be hailed as great if Sharif government utilize all the help provided. Or Obama administration will just be another U.S government that loves to fuel conflicts if the TFG shows no sign of unity. What happenened to the process of reestablishing the Somali National Army? All those efforts went in vain.

I'm tired of seeing rag tag militias represent Sheikh Sharif's army :lol: we need a strong army to defeat our enemies especially the pagan ones (Al Shabaab, Xisbul Islam) etc. For once these soldiers throw away their clan affiliations and put the nation first. :up: