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Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:51 am
by SummerRain
Kolombo wrote:Ismahan123 wrote:Kolombo wrote:Will you shake my hand, if I extended it to you?

If you know what's good for you, you will not offer me your hand.
How's that as an answer for you?

Very well, dear. I'm keeping my hands to myself.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:52 am
by Kolombo
^Bravismo! Gabaree maanyo catches on fast.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:55 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
There is no evidence in quran forbidding shaking hands with women.
amir of wahabis shaking hands :

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:10 am
by Diyeeshaha_Tolka
why pple are making such big deal out a handshake,,if i was sheikh shariif i would give her french kiss,,,si ay wax walba igu fududeyso
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:16 am
by Mizzy_Flame
anyone know how to post youtube vids?

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:20 am
by FAH1223
Diyeeshaha_Tolka wrote:why pple are making such big deal out a handshake,,if i was sheikh shariif i would give her french kiss,,,si ay wax walba igu fududeyso
WTF

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:21 am
by AbdiWahab252
FAH,
She aint that bad looking for her age

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:21 am
by surrender
I don’t know if he will/will not. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he did, after all he's a man that went from declaring a jihad on non believers and their followers, to accepting their rule/order and asking them for guidance and protection. Not surprised what he’s going to do next! 
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:23 am
by FAH1223
AbdiWahab252 wrote:FAH,
She aint that bad looking for her age

wtf...why do you think Bill Clinton always is going for side pieces and jumpoffs then?
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:34 am
by InMOWeTrust
It is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and His Messenger to put his hand in the hand of a women who is not permissible for him or who is not one of his mahrams. Whoever does that has wronged himself (i.e., sinned).
the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than that he should touch a woman who is not permissible for him
‘Aa’ishah said: Whoever among the believing women agreed to that had passed the test, and when the women agreed to that, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to them: “Go, for you have given your oath of allegiance.’ No, by Allaah, the hand of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) never touched the hand of any woman, rather they would give their oath of allegiance with words only.” And ‘Aa’ishah said: “By Allaah, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) only took the oath of allegiance from the women in the manner prescribed by Allaah, and the hand of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) never touched the hand of any woman. When he had taken their oath of allegiance he would say, ‘I have accepted your oath of allegiance verbally.’”
(narrated by Muslim, 1866)
It was narrated from ‘Urwah that ‘Aa’ishah told him about the women’s oath of allegiance: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) never touched any woman with his hand. He would explain to the woman what the oath of allegiance implied, and when she accepted, he would say ‘Go, for you have given your oath of allegiance.’”
Narrated by Muslim, 1866
It was narrated that Umaymah the daughter of Raqeeqah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “I do not shake hands with women.”
Wali al-Deen al-‘Iraaqi said:
The words of ‘Aa’ishah, “He used to accept the women’s oath of allegiance by words only” mean that he did so without taking their hands or shaking hands with them. This indicates that the bay’ah of men was accepted by taking their hands and shaking hands with them, as well as by words, and this is how it was. What ‘Aa’ishah mentioned was the custom.
The same ruling applies to shaking hands with old women; this is also haraam because of the general meaning of the texts on this issue. The reports that say it is permissible are da’eef (weak).
Al-Zayla’i said:
“As for the report that ‘Abu Bakr used to shake hands with old women, it is also ghareeb.”
(Nasab al-Raayah, 4/240)
Ibn Hajar said:
I cannot find this hadeeth.
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:36 am
by InMOWeTrust
With regard to the views of the four imams, they are as follows:
1 – The Hanafi madhhab:
Ibn Nujaym said:
It is not permissible for a man to touch a woman’s face or hands even if there is no risk of desire because it is haraam in principle and there is no necessity that would allow it. Al-Bahr al-Raa’iq, 8/219
2 – The Maaliki madhhab:
Muhammad ibn Ahmad (‘Ulaysh) said:
It is not permissible for a man to touch the face or hand of a non-mahram woman, and it is not permissible for him to put his hand on hers without a barrier. ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) never accepted a woman’s oath of allegiance by shaking hands with her; rather he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to accept their oath of allegiance by words only.” According to another report, “His hand never touched the hand of a woman, rather he would accept their oath of allegiance by words only.” (Manh al-Jaleel Sharh Mukhtasar Khaleel, 1/223)
3 – The Shaafa’i madhhab:
Al-Nawawi said:
It is not permissible to touch a woman in any way. Al-Majmoo’, 4/515.
Wali al-Deen al-‘Iraaqi said:
This indicates that the hand of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not touch the hand of any woman apart from his wives and concubines, whether in the case of accepting the oath of allegiance or in other cases. If he did not do that despite the fact that he was infallible and beyond suspicion, then it is even more essential that others heed this prohibition. It appears from the texts that he refrained from doing that because it was haraam for him to do so. The fuqaha’ among our companions and others said that it is haraam to touch a non-mahram woman even if that is not touching parts of her body that are not ‘awrah, such as her face. But they differed with regard to looking when there is no desire and no fear of fitnah. The prohibition on touching is stronger than the prohibition on looking, and it is haraam when there is no necessity that would allow it. If it is the case of necessity, e.g. medical treatment, removing a tooth or treating the eyes, etc., if there is no woman who can do that, then it is permissible for a non-mahram to do that because it is the case of necessity. Tarh al-Tathreeb, 7/45, 46
4 – The Hanbali madhhab
Ibn Muflih said:
Abu ‘Abd-Allaah – i.e., Imam Ahmad – was asked about a man who shakes hands with a woman. He said, No, and was emphatic that it is haraam. I said, Should he shake hands with her from beneath his garment? He said, No. http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/21183
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:37 am
by Executive
HutuKing01 wrote:There is no evidence in quran forbidding shaking hands with women.
amir of wahabis shaking hands :

There is no evidence of how to preform your pray in the Quran either,
btw if you can shake a women's hand, can you touch her body too? can you grab her waist? can you kiss her on the cheek like they greet each other in spain?
Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:39 am
by gedo_gurl
This si so sad..we have so little respect for our 'head of state' that we worry more about a handshake than the meeting

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:44 am
by AbdiWahab252
FAH1223 wrote:AbdiWahab252 wrote:FAH,
She aint that bad looking for her age

wtf...why do you think Bill Clinton always is going for side pieces and jumpoffs then?
FAH,
Monica was not worth it. Clinton likes fugly side pieces

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:08 am
by ModerateMuslim
Voltage wrote:...Shiekh Sharif and Al Shabaab at the end of the day really subscribe to the same religious belief system. The fundamentals they agree on but it is the methadology and how to apply it they disagree on.
looooool.
the stuff this dumbass posts....boy.
