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Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:53 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
President Sharif Ahmed Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton Tomorrow? :mrgreen:

In Somalia, a Twist on 'Handshake Diplomacy'

NAIROBI, Aug. 5 -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Somali President Sharif Ahmed are expected to discuss weighty security issues when they meet in this city Thursday. But many Somalis will be paying close attention to a more delicate, but highly symbolic, matter of diplomacy: whether the two will shake hands.

"The talk is everywhere," said Abdirhaman Mumin, a Somali sugar exporter who is hoping for the handshake. "Will he or won't he? For many people, whether he's loyal to Islam or not depends on the handshake."

Somalia is a traditionally moderate Muslim country. Music and poetry are treasured, and handshaking between men and women -- taboo according to some conservative readings of Islam -- has long been considered normal. But since the collapse of the last central government in 1991, a more conservative strain of Islam has taken hold, with Somalis depending more on Islamic law to establish order.

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Re: Sharif Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:54 pm
by AbdiWahab252
If he needs the $$$ and military assistance, he should finger fuck her if it will get the help.

Re: Sharif Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:56 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
AbdiWahab252 wrote:If he needs the $$$ and military assistance, he should finger fuck her if it will get the help.
The Islamic Republic Of Somala will be watching what our so called Reglious leader does.

Point Blank a male can not handshake a women that is not blood family or wife.

Re: Sharif Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:59 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
Tomorrow will be an interesting day can not wait to see the Pictures that come out from Kenya.

The World Press will be all over the place with their cameras

Re: Sharif Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:02 pm
by Nabeela
I have a feeling he won't shake her hand, but will see.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:03 pm
by Nabel
Isn't Sh. Shariif moderate? The answer is clear.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:06 pm
by SummerRain
If he covers his hand with a piece of cloth, its alright.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:09 pm
by Advo
Mothapuka better shake that hand if he wants some milk, sometimes u gotta go through a lil dambi for the greater good of your cause.


istaqfurulah :lol:

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:11 pm
by Nabel
Ismahan123 wrote:If he covers his hand with a piece of cloth, its alright.
Do you handshake your male coworkers, professors, fellow conference attendees, etc?

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:14 pm
by SummerRain
Nabel wrote:
Ismahan123 wrote:If he covers his hand with a piece of cloth, its alright.
Do you handshake your male coworkers, professors, fellow conference attendees, etc?
No.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:18 pm
by Voltage
I don't think he will shake her hand because Shiekh Sharif and Al Shabaab at the end of the day really subscribe to the same religious belief system. The fundamentals they agree on but it is the methadology and how to apply it they disagree on.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:31 pm
by Amethyst
My bet would be that he'll give her one of those awkward wadaad waves, from like six feet away, but come photo-op time, stand less than an inch-away. Shoulder rubbing against shoulder. Now that's diplomacy. :som: :up:

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:38 am
by Enlightened~Sista
Sheikh Muhammad Al-Mukhtar Al-Shinqiti

There are two common hadiths concerning shaking hands with the opposite sex. In the first hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, "I do not shake hands with women" (Al-Bukhari).

The second hadith is narrated on the authority of Anas ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him), he said, "The female slave from Madinah would take hold of the hand of Allah's Messenger and lead him wherever she wished, without withdrawing her hands from his hands until the Prophet fulfils her need" (Ahmad).

Based on the two hadiths, we conclude that the basic rule discourages shaking hands with members of the opposite sex, but if one were put in an awkward situation, then there would be no harm to shake hands with members of the opposite sex. This ruling applies to Muslims living in the West because of the social customs prevailing in these countries.


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... 4161661405

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:40 am
by Enlightened~Sista
Just because the Prophet (p) didnt do something doesnt mean that it is haraam, we know for instance that he didnt eat lizards but that didnt mean it is haraam.

Re: Will He Or Will He Not Handshake Hillary Clinton?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:50 am
by Executive
Enlightened~Sista

Can I hug a women? grab her waist? Kiss her on the cheek?

I can't touch a women thats not my mahram let alone shaking hands, and there are several hadiths confirming this.