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I don't have a concept of "my people" anymore. My observations of the neanderthal-like Somali Race has made me a cynic.

Because you are overall a negative person.

On the contrary I am and have always been a very positive and optimistic person. However there is so much patience one can have for the neanderthal-like Somali organisms. This was my response to an accusation hurled on a subject like this a little bit ago


War heedhe kala saar ariintu. Dhawr waxaad baa isku qaldaysaa and definitely not reasonable given the fact this is first and foremost a web forum intended for socializing.

Ma markuu Voltage cyber socializing/entertaining ku guda jiro, well in that case I will be the first to tell you I utilize this forum however I feel at any given situation. I don't come here with the objective of being continiously serious as if this is school and I am being graded on participation. If I want to troll I troll, if I want to entertain myself I will, if I want to crack jokes I do freely and if I want to contribute lively to a political or academic discourse I don't ask for permission. Marka first understand that, waxaan kenyan iyo that flag iyo arrimahaas nin wayn baa tahay and I don't think xillgan inaan ku sheego I was entertaining myself and taking the piss.

Taas waa mid

Waa mida kale ee aad u bahantahay differentiation. I am a critic of Somali society. I will not lie and will never apologize. Yes I Voltage, foremost nationalist, and former Marehanist, once ignorant participant to clan group-think am an avowed and announced critic of my society, my people and the negative and adverse sections of their culture, civilization (or lack of--whatever floats your boat), conduct, and recent socio-political history and all it has manifested itself in. I am a critic and I criticize the ignorant group think, the clan adverse effects, the camel shagging illiterate and ignorant culture, the la yiqra/la yaktub state of conduct. I am a critic of it all and I am criticizing it now---understand full well my criticism against Somaliland members of this forum now is not unique but part and parcel of the collective criticism I hurl at that that camel shagging race I hail from be they reside in Djibouti to the coast of the Mombasa and as far as the rift and those frontier borders of Ethiopia to those sand dunes bordering the Indian Ocean. I criticize it all because I have seen what our culture is and what our people are . I was a member of that not shortly ago, I was a participant, a signatory to the perverse and illigetimate and backward culture of which my people bask in, in luxury and contentedness. I don't apologize for that and if I say the Kenyan Bantu is a civilized, enlightened, and professional man in all respects and areas worthy of judgment, something that camel shagging bushman of Somalia has yet to sample even for the briefest moment which mayhap will entice him to fight the curse that plagues---if I give voice that I don't apologize my friend and I am not apologizing for it now. The Somali has yet to be civilized and that is the cardinal truth sworn on the name of my dear lord ALLAH (SWT).

Mise waa my hope and dreams for Somalia? Well that man right that there---Mohammed Abdillahi Oomaar--- is what keeps it afloat. Time to recognize my friend--SAY CHEESE

That still doesn't explain much. The fact is that you are being so cynical in a time when you are supposed to be thinking about what you can do to better the people, you've just given up. It's rather sad.

Alluring wrote:That still doesn't explain much. The fact is that you are being so cynical in a time when you are supposed to be thinking about what you can do to better the people, you've just given up. It's rather sad.

No, it is strategically realigning myself.

Voltage wrote:

Alluring wrote:That still doesn't explain much. The fact is that you are being so cynical in a time when you are supposed to be thinking about what you can do to better the people, you've just given up. It's rather sad.

No, it is strategically realigning myself.

Hate to say this, but you are better than that.

Ah well we all are. We just have to open our eyes widely for once to see clearly.

Fock Somalia and its worthless and pointless "politics"

Voltage,

You remind me of me a few months ago.

Don't despair, there's always a plan at work. Just limit your readings regarding Somalia and stay focused on your studies.

Kolombo wrote:Voltage,

You remind me of me a few months ago.

Don't despair, there's always a plan at work. Just limit your readings regarding Somalia and stay focused on your studies.

Dude this has been my position for a year now. Sometimes I am vocal about it when the opportunity arises but it is definitely me and will continue to be me.

Voltage,

Its like being on a roller coaster, up & down, round & round. Just when you're giving up, you see something promising and tell yourself "This is it...this is what we've all been waiting for..." then it just blows up in your face and you're left asking wtf just happened? And then it happens again, its a never-ending cycle. I deal with it by limiting my readings and discussions about Somali politics, the less I know, the less I have to feel disappointed about.

Lately I think of it as Allah has a plan for his people, its bound to go right somewhere down the road.

V,

I know FOR A FACT that you love Somalia a lot.

Their is nothing worse than despair, there are numerous hadith or ayahs on despair..it helps noone. Do what the rest of the diaspora do, create a fairytale love story between you and your country and stick to it blindly until the time comes when you have to be pragmatic...i.e when you might be of use to the situation.

Re. Topic...Kenyan men with an ounce of authority are neanderthals..knuckleheaded to the core, and probably really enjoyed seeing her suffer for those few months. AlhamduliAllah shes back home..that is, with her family.

what has the blue flag and zoomalis got to do with her case. they should all be wearing John Goddard and canadian t.shirts. give credit to where it is due. now the media made her a celebrity and the same media will bring her down. tall poppy syndrome. i hope she didn't have a sham divorce for welfare from her husband. they will dig all the dirt on her.

do u see a zoomali name in these people disgusted how she was treated

Aug 17, 2009 04:30 AM


I am absolutely disgusted by our government's treatment of Suaad Hagi Mohamud. On behalf of this country, I am delighted to give Mrs. Mohamud what she will not receive from this homophobic and racist government: an apology. I am sorry for your treatment as a less-than-first-class Canadian citizen and the trauma you and your family have been put through. This is the least that you deserve.
Robert Bruce Sims, Ottawa

So Stephen Harper now warns us all to be extra "cautious" when we travel internationally. Does that mean that Suaad should have taken "be cautious" to mean to pay out bribes when solicited? She did everything right and now Harper is trying to score political points by looking involved and blaming others. How sad. Kudos to the Star for relentlessly pursuing this story.
Rose LePage, Toronto

Now what about Amanda Lindhout? It seems this freelance journalist from Alberta, who has been held captive in Somalia since last August, has also been forgotten by Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon and his bungling aides in the High Commission. It makes me ashamed to be Canadian. Other countries send in armed troups to rescue their citizens. Canada confiscates their passports. Please do a story on Amanda's case. Maybe with all the heat on the subject, the government will respond.
Lesley Brownlee, Guelph

After the indifference and disgusting lack of assistance displayed by our government as a whole in the Suaad Hagi Mohamud case, I would expect them to have at least paid her fare home. She should also be compensated for all out of pocket expenses for the last three months, including any lost salary.
Robert Herscovitch, Toronto

I travel to foreign countries several times per year and am wondering what proof would be sufficient to satisfy Canadian and foreign officials. Clearly, from this case, our passport is not acceptable, nor are other citizenship documents. Apparently only DNA comparison is marginally acceptable. Where do I go to have my DNA taken and catalogued? And what is the standard bribe required at the airport in Kenya? I wish to be prepared.
Edward A. Collis, Burlington

When a staff reporter of a respected newspaper like the Star tried to contact Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan nine times on Aug. 14 without success, what chance does someone thousands of miles away in a foreign country have?
Max Desouza, Toronto

http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2009/Aug/a ... tment.aspx

Star Journalist John Goddard broke the story of Suaad Mohamud’s plight and relentlessly pursued it.

John Goddard
STAFF REPORTER
SUNDAY, AUGUST 16, 2009


With as much poise as anyone could muster, Suaad Hagi Mohamud walked a gauntlet of cameras toward her 12-year-old son at Pearson Airport's Terminal 3 yesterday, and warmly wrapped her arms around his head. Dignified and focused, her hair wrapped in a patterned red cloth, she laughed, broke into tears, answered questions above the din, and constantly kept returning attention to her son, kissing him and rubbing his head.

I recognized her as the Suaad I had come to know over the past seven weeks – a self-possessed woman constantly moving toward a positive outcome. Almost daily, over bad phone lines, she told me the latest on her excruciating, bureaucratic ordeal, starting with the size of her lips being questioned in her passport photo, to the taking of her DNA to settle her identity.

She never played the victim during the three months she was stranded in Nairobi. She never got angry or blamed anybody. When she expressed feeling, she made only statements that she knew to be true about herself.
"I'm here to be with my son," she told reporters yesterday. "I'm glad my whole nightmare is over."
Two days earlier in a similar vein, she told a reporter in Nairobi, Kenya: "I wish I knew why they did it ... I wouldn't have to keep asking myself."
At times, her Toronto friends say, she has broken down on the phone, particularly when asked about being thrown into a Kenyan jail for eight days, or speaking of her boy left behind with a friend's family.

But with me she always stayed fixed on the task at hand.
"I am suffering for nothing," she said at one point when she ran out of money and was evicted from a room in a Nairobi slum, perhaps her strongest expression of the injustice she felt.
And she ended every call with a cheerful, "Have a nice day."

Mohamud was born in Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1978, making her 31 now. She remembers her childhood of the 1980s as a happy and relatively prosperous time. Her father was a businessman, she has said, with a swimming pool and a 2,000-hectare ranch at Afgooye, northwest of the capital, where her father would take her on school holidays.
When clan violence flared in the country, most of the family got out, first to neighbouring Djibouti, later to Kenya.
In 1996, at 18, she got married.

Asbscir Hussein was originally from Mogadishu, as well – from the same clan, and 11 years older.
He had come to Canada in 1989, obtained citizenship and returned to Africa to find a bride.
With Somalia still in turmoil, he looked in the expatriate Somali communities in Kenya. Their two families arranged the marriage.
A year or so afterward, he returned to Canada and began the process of sponsoring Mohamud to join him.
By the time he succeeded, in 1999, she had a toddler in tow, their only child.

But the match proved an awkward one.
Hussein drove a night taxi. Mohamud took a sewing course and beautician training, and nurtured ambitions to study fashion design.
In 2002, the couple divorced. But despite the break, throughout the ordeal, Hussein has staunchly supported her.
He filed an affidavit in federal court vouching for her. He spoke up for her to reporters. And when told he could help lab technicians match DNA between mother and son, he gamely let his cheek be swabbed.
"I feel so bad for her," he said emotionally while waiting at the lab office last month.
"She is suffering so much."

One of the greatest mysteries of the case is how immune the Canadian High Commission proved to be against her natural charm and obvious integrity.
When humanitarians from Ecoterra International in Nairobi heard of her plight, they checked her out and found her genuine.
When Toronto lawyer Raoul Boulakia read of her case in the Star, he ran a check and found the same.
Why the government wouldn't bother to make the same effort remains a puzzle, but at every new barrier Mohamud responded with typical resourcefulness.
Challenged by a Canadian consular official over her identity, she produced every form of ID she could think of, including a recent dry cleaning receipt from Brighten Cleaners near her Toronto home in Lawrence Heights.

When that went nowhere, she remembered she gave her fingerprints when she immigrated to Canada 10 years ago. "Take them again now," she asked consular officials.
Eventually, her attempts to prove herself led to one of her friends calling me.
The first story appeared July 1. With each additional report, the Star alone paying attention, Mohamud became more elaborate in her expressions of appreciation.
"When I get home, I'm going to give you a big hug," she said a few days ago.
In the crush of the airport crowd yesterday, we never even got a chance to say hello.
Source: The Toronto Star, August 16, 2009

Kolombo,

Why are you feeling disappointed ? I view Somalia as a tragic play where the actors and actresses who think they are in the lead are mere puppets in a larger act.


Voltage,

Its just a phase you are going through. You will be back trying to google Darood history, denying atrocities under the MSB regime, etc etc.

gedo_gurl wrote:Their is nothing worse than despair, there are numerous hadith or ayahs on despair..it helps noone. Do what the rest of the diaspora do, create a fairytale love story between you and your country and stick to it blindly until the time comes when you have to be pragmatic...i.e when you might be of use to the situation.

Re. Topic...Kenyan men with an ounce of authority are neanderthals..knuckleheaded to the core, and probably really enjoyed seeing her suffer for those few months. AlhamduliAllah shes back home..that is, with her family.

GedoGurl,

What about the dumb Canadians at the High Commission ? They are the ones who sold her out. The Kenyans were being Kenyans.