Salahudiin..take it easy..I can bring up dozens of quotes where Imam Shafi'i professes love for the Ahlal Bayt.
You are guilty of the very thing you accuse Twelver Shias of...taking Imams statements as infallible.
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HutuKing01 wrote:Only zaydi sect are accepted as muslims, rawaafid(twelvers,ismael,bahoolis)left islam and so does the person who doubts about them leaving islam.
Enlightened~Sista wrote:djib ha is daalin walaal..trust me I know all those ahadith, I don't accept politically motivated ahadeeth whether in favour of this or that Saxaabi. As far as I'm concerned they are fabricated. You might want to read this excellent book by Al Katib , a former Twelver Missionary http://www.alkatib.co.uk/englishbook.htm now THAT will blow your mind away. Happy reading!
djibsomali wrote:shall i quote a hadith collected by bukhari who will blow up you mind??
And will show you how generationsof our somali clean mind have been corrupted by the saudi vodka propaganda
abdalla11 wrote:Enlightened~Sista wrote:djib ha is daalin walaal..trust me I know all those ahadith, I don't accept politically motivated ahadeeth whether in favour of this or that Saxaabi. As far as I'm concerned they are fabricated. You might want to read this excellent book by Al Katib , a former Twelver Missionary http://www.alkatib.co.uk/englishbook.htm now THAT will blow your mind away. Happy reading!
Is that the book a former Twelver where he says that Ayatullah khumaini had an intercourse with a kid??
abdalla11 wrote:surrender wrote:oh thats must be it than, and the fact that they used rock/brown wooden circle thing dfor sujuud! i've nevr seen the rock, but have seen the wooden thing, there are some at my uni who use it.
waa bidca right?!
They do that because they say the blood of hussain and ali touched the ground, so by doing that their head won't touch the ground during sujuud, and yes it is bidcah!
The shica started during the fightings bewteen cali and mucaawiyah radiyuallaahu canhumaa. Those who supported cali were called the shica (group) of cali. But there was a man who was called cabdullah ibn saba who was jew(and said he embraced the islam) he brought new ideas, such as cali is better than abu bakr and cumar. The saxaaba (including cali) unanimous agreed that abu bakr was the best among the saxaaba, followed bu cumar followed bu cuthmaan.
This cabdullah ibn saba was exiled by cali for his strange innovation. Abdullah ibn saba continued his call to his bidca, he choosed places were there the saxaba were present, because they would refute his bidcah. So settled in areas where there wasn't a single saxaabi and spread his innovation to the ignorants.
The shica are not all the same, u have the raafida (who are the worst), there ismailiyyah ( who belive in reincarnation), fatimiyyah and zaydiyyah
The raafidah aka the twelver, believe:1 Jibriil made a fault by revealing the revelation to muxammed saw instead of cali 2: all the saxaaba of the Prophet became apostate excpt five 3.The quran has mistakes 4. They believe in 12 imaams (hence the name twelvers or ithnaa cashariyyah in arabic) to whom they affirm divine attributes 5. the quraan which we have is not complete, they have another version which is 2/3 of the whole revelation, so our (the true ) quran is according to them 1/3 of the revelation. They say 2/3 of they revelation was revealed to fatimah after the death of the prophet. (Strange, 1/3 the quraan was during a period of 23 revealed to the prophet, while 2/3 of the revalation was send down during a period of 6 months, because fatimah died 6 months after the Prophet.)
Alot of the culemaa believe, based on their caqiidah, that they are not muslims. Imaam bukhaari was asked about praying behind a shica imaam his answer was: I don't see a difference between praying behind a shici and praying behind a christian or a jew!!!
And imaam shafici said:lam araa ixdaa ashhurin bi zuuri minal raafidah, the rafidah are the biggest liars of mankind
go to this site http://www.fatwa-onlineclick on Deviant groups and choose raafidah
My take on it as well Somali-Star wrote:i very much agree with this post, especially the highlighted part:HutuKing01 wrote:Only zaydi sect are accepted as muslims, rawaafid(twelvers,ismael,bahoolis)left islam and so does the person who doubts about them leaving islam.
totally disgusted by people who see the shia as brothers to be loved. but this place (snet) is a dump, after all.
i can only hate a person who thinks that allah swt lied when he said that he has perfected and finalized this deen for us; or one who claims that allah swt doesn't protect his deen, rather if it wasn't for hussein (ra) saving it, it'd have been lost to us (i.e. hussein saved and preserved it for us); or a person who claims for their imams the attributes of allah swt (for example knowledge of the unseen); or a person who claims that the universe was created for their imams and they, not allah swt, control it, down to every atom; or some who claims that allah swt lied and beloved aisha (ra) committed adultery; or who slanders and make takfeer of the best of the sahaba (accuse them of kufr, rape, murder, theft, distorting the deen, depravity etc); so on, etc... and i hate also the ones who love such a person.
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