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Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:50 pm
by JaMaaL-23
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Don't Go To church

WHERE is the hardest place in the world to be a Christian citizen? North Korea, perhaps? Saudi Arabia? Try Somalia. There are thought to be no more than a thousand Christians in a resident population of 8m people, with perhaps a few thousand more in the diaspora. The Islamist Shabab militia, which controls most of southern Somalia, is dedicated to hunting them down.

Christian men attend mosques on Fridays, so as not to arouse suspicion. Bibles are kept hidden. There are no public meetings, let alone a church. Catholic churches and cemeteries have been destroyed. The last nuns in the smashed capital, Mogadishu, were chased out in 2007. The year before, an elderly nun working in a hospital there was murdered. The only Christian believers left are local Somalis.

Catching and killing them is useful propaganda for the Shabab, not least for indoctrinating its young fighters and suicide-bombers in the belief that America, Britain, Italy, the Vatican, along with Ethiopia and Kenya, are all “crusaders” trying to convert Somalis to Christianity. The UN lurks nefariously behind. Israel, of course, is also doing its bit to undermine Islam.

The shaky transitional government led by Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, whose writ runs weakly across the territory the Shabab does not yet run, is unlikely to speak up for any of its citizens caught with a bible. Though professing moderation, he promotes a version of sharia law whereby every citizen of Somalia is born a Muslim and anyone who converts to another religion is guilty of apostasy, which is punishable by death.

Every month several Somalis are killed for being Christian. Sometimes that is just a label that the jihadists stick on people they suspect of working for Ethiopian intelligence. But many are simple believers. According to Somali sources and Christian groups monitoring Somalia from abroad, at least 13 members of underground churches have been killed in the past few months. Most were Mennonites, evangelised by missionaries on the Juba river in southern Somalia. They include a 46-year-old woman shot dead near the town of Jilib after a Swahili-language bible was found in her shack; a 69-year-old man killed near a port south of Mogadishu after Shabab fighters found 25 Somali bibles in a bag he was carrying; and two boys, aged 11 and 12, who were beheaded by the Shabab after their father refused to divulge information about an underground church. Hundreds of Somalis may have been killed for being Christian since the Shabab arose in 2005.

Such atrocities—and reports that the Koran has been read over the victims even at the point of their beheading—are upsetting evangelical Christians in America. Mr Ahmed’s government sorely needs money to shore itself up. But if he fails even to hint that Christians should be tolerated, he may find America’s Congress increasingly loth to help bail him out.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:53 pm
by Shirib
I don't feel sorry for murtadiin

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:58 pm
by JaMaaL-23
Such atrocities—and reports that the Koran has been read over the victims even at the point of their beheading—are upsetting evangelical Christians in America. Mr Ahmed’s government sorely needs money to shore itself up. But if he fails even to hint that Christians should be tolerated, he may find America’s Congress increasingly loth to help bail him out.

Western countaries are reluctant to help Sharif's Gov partly becuz.

It didn't make its position on Somali Christians under its proposed Shariah Law clear. whether it sees Somali Christians as appostates that need to die or citizen whose rights need to be protected.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:00 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
Shirib wrote:I don't feel sorry for murtadiin


My roommate is one. :lol:

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:02 pm
by Padishah
You need to be hunted down and killed because of what you believe Shirib. Then I can smugly say, 'I don't feel sorry for the bastard'.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:06 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Padishah wrote:You need to be hunted down and killed because of what you believe Shirib. Then I can smugly say, 'I don't feel sorry for the bastard'.



Padishah,

Its quite odd for Shirib who lives in a country where he can worship freely be supportive of the murders of people who chose not to practice the same religion as him.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:08 pm
by Shirib
Somalian_Boqor wrote:
Shirib wrote:I don't feel sorry for murtadiin


My roommate is one. :lol:


that sucks

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:09 pm
by Shirib
Padishah wrote:You need to be hunted down and killed because of what you believe Shirib. Then I can smugly say, 'I don't feel sorry for the bastard'.


too bad :arrow:

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:11 pm
by Padishah
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Padishah,

Its quite odd for Shirib who lives in a country where he can worship freely be supportive of the murders of people who chose not to practice the same religion as him.
Its very, very disturbing. Not only is it unjust to kill someone for what they believe, its spiritually damaging.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:13 pm
by Shirib
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Padishah wrote:You need to be hunted down and killed because of what you believe Shirib. Then I can smugly say, 'I don't feel sorry for the bastard'.



Padishah,

Its quite odd for Shirib who lives in a country where he can worship freely be supportive of the murders of people who chose not to practice the same religion as him.


Don't u just love America :mrgreen:

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:14 pm
by JaMaaL-23
Somalian_Boqor wrote:
Shirib wrote:I don't feel sorry for murtadiin


My roommate is one. :lol:



your roommate is Somali turned Christian :?: :shock:

the only Somali Christian I saw was a Gadabursi he lived in Kenya and was not shy about it. most ppl knew he was Christian.

he was one of the children raised by the Menonite church in the 60s. coming to think of it some sayina Togane (the Abgaal Poet Porfessor) could also be a Menonite Christian, I am fugiring there was a succesful Menonite proselytization program.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:17 pm
by Padishah
Mennonite? Aren't the Amish Mennonite Christians?

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:17 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Shirib wrote:
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Padishah wrote:You need to be hunted down and killed because of what you believe Shirib. Then I can smugly say, 'I don't feel sorry for the bastard'.



Padishah,

Its quite odd for Shirib who lives in a country where he can worship freely be supportive of the murders of people who chose not to practice the same religion as him.


Don't u just love America :mrgreen:



Shirib,

Yep, America is great. Let us see if Shabab would allow you to speak your mind.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:18 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Padishah wrote:Mennonite? Aren't the Amish Mennonite Christians?



Padishah,

They are not the same group. The Mennonites had branches in Jowhar, Jilib and other places in the South & the best educational facilities too.

Re: Al-shabab Targets Somali Christians

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:19 pm
by rabanam
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Padishah,

Its quite odd for Shirib who lives in a country where he can worship freely be supportive of the murders of people who chose not to practice the same religion as him.
AbdiWahab252, I beg to differ. You can't practice what's halal in the West, instead, you can practice what's haram. For instance, you can't legally marry more than one (which Islam allows), but you can have as many girlfriends and father as many illegitimates.