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What you have wrote in here is entirely an assumption.I try to avoid political threads as much as i can but when i see some one parrotting the same stuff over and over again to make some silly points like "ethiopia did not invade somalia in 2006 but where protecting only an institution" that is when i step in.The man you are talking about here has taken party in driving the invading ethiopians out of the country.

lies, u have voiced support for Shariif, Gheedi, Muhammad Dheere, and Abgaal Al Shabaab, is this not true?

This actually shows the weakness of your argument war ninyahow Dont let your imaginations run wild ,repeating these kind of outright lies will not help you buttress your failing case.
What you consider as a fact is merely your own assertions there is no valid argument in sight there.

That is exactly what the situation was in summer 06, Ethiopians came in to protect Abdullahi Yusuf, they weren't conducting any operations then, they weren't going after ICU, they were in Baydhabo nothing more

The motivation is clear and it sounds like a clannish one ninayhow,Abu mansuur is more munafaq than shariif but something keeps you from seening that.

what is my clannish stance? That I support Shabaab cause of Abu Mansuur, is that what u are getting at?

sheekh shariif markuu dhahayo caruurtiisa ka ilaashada masaajidada beenta loogu sheego, ogaadana caruurtiisa waxa masajidada loogu sheego waa runtiiis.

magaalada mogadishu ama koonfurta somalia waa ku dhimatey DHALINYARO YAR YAR garaya ilaa 15 wiil ka yimid minneapolis ama meelaha ay somalida ka deggaaan AMERIKA. dhalinyaradaasna waxaa BEEN u sheegay wadaada WAHAABIYADA e iyaga ku raaxeeysta NOLOSHA amerika, laakiin wiilashaas yar yar BEEN U sheegay yirina. XAMAR AADA hoobiye ku dhameeya CARUURTA XAMAR DEGGAN.dadka xamarna qixiya JIHAAAD ayaa ka jira xamar.

BEEENTAAS wahaabiyada al shabaaab taageerayaashooda AMERIKA DEGGAN caruurta qalda sida JAMAAL banna alla yaa raxma ayuu SHEEKH SHARIIIF UGA DIGAYEY waalidka deggan AMERIKA.

WAANA ARIN SAXIIX AH 100% IN waxuushta AL SHAYAADIIN AL SHABAAB IYO SHAYAADIINTA WAHAABIYADA MASAAJIADA DHIIGA DADKA LAGU DAADIYO KA FURTEY MAREYKANKA LAGA ILAAALIYO INAY CARUURTA BRAINWASH ku sameeyaan.

qabisit Addoow ,,,we already know shaariiif is Munafiq and we know the Reason why he is Munafiq .. so tell us how come Abu mansuur is munafaq ?

I no longer believe his muslim.

X - I can't wait for Amiso to leave Somalia, and other forces replaced with them.

X - I want every Al-Shabaab headmen to be assassinated, kaboot, finished off, killed, nada baby.

These loonies are all around us. Al-Shabaab are Ex-mooryaans, these people go to where the grass is greener, and the green paper has no qabil. I will flippin slap the living daylights of the younger Abgal shababbist, but the older ones should be 'killed' for their digusting slimey money grabbing ways.

The other this lady was killed in Bakool for adultery. They are so disgusting, they are the rapist, the jury and the bloodye judge.

it`s him or the highway

Allaah said to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning): “O Prophet (Muhammad)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them”

[al-Tawbah 9:73]


The damage that these people do is greater than that caused by the kuffaar whose kufr is obvious, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allaah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path?”

[al-Munaafiqoon 63:4]

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said concerning the Nusayris, among whom were some who expressed their kufr and heresy openly and others who made a hypocritical show of loving Ahl al-Bayt (the members of the Prophet’s household):

"Undoubtedly waging jihad against these people and carrying out the hadd punishments against them is one of the greatest acts of obedience and most important obligatory actions. It is better than waging jihad against those mushrikeen and people of the Book who do not fight the Muslims, for waging jihad against these comes under the same heading as waging jihad against the apostates.

Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq and all the Sahaabah started with jihad against the apostates before they engaged in jihad against the kuffaar of the people of the Book, for jihad against these (the apostates) is a means to protect the lands that are already under Muslim rule, and to deter anyone who wants to apostatize.

Jihad against the mushrikeen and people of the Book who are not fighting us is an additional manifestation of the power of this religion. Protecting the capital takes precedence over making profit.

Moreover the harm that these people (hypocrites) cause to the Muslims is greater than that caused by others (kaafirs), indeed their harm is like that caused by the mushrikeen and people of the Book who fight the Muslims. The damage that they do to the religious commitment of many people is worse than the damage done by those mushrikeen and people of the Book who wage war on us. Every Muslim must do as much as he can of his duty.


It is not permissible for anyone to keep quiet about anything that he knows about them, rather he must broadcast it so that the Muslims will know what they really are. It is not permissible for anyone to help them to remain among the troops and government employees, or for anyone to keep quiet and refrain from carrying out against them that which Allaah and His Messenger have enjoined.

It is not permissible for anyone to speak against carrying out what Allaah and His Messenger have enjoined. This is one of the greatest types of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, and of striving in jihad for the sake of Allaah."

Yea they were in Baydhabo protecting the dowlad of Abdullahi Yusuf, the same thing AMISOM is doing for Shariif

Alright !
The next point of contention in this discussion will be wether one recognise the African Union or not .
I have made my point , the hypocrite is YOU !
Bye!

U made absolutely no sense

that's shamso al-nursinghomi for you.

he's probably drunk most of the time, understandably; because you can't really do what he does in a state of soberness.

Loool, Funny how it took you lot so much time 2 figure him out....

Loool, Funny how it took you lot so much time 2 figure him out....

i was the first to call him munafiq where's my price

Guys, you need to understand sheikh Sharif isn't independent. He isn't a decision maker. Others prepare for him what/how he has to say. He also a hostage who can't free himself and his family from those who hold him. He's merely a spokesman, and that's how I see him.

Sheikh Sharif is doing the right thing, he should do what ever IT TAKES to eradicate these Khawaarja savages from southern Somalia

Guys, you need to understand sheikh Sharif isn't independent. He isn't a decision maker. Others prepare for him what/how he has to say. He also a hostage who can't free himself and his family from those who hold him. He's merely a spokesman, and that's how I see him.

I agree wholeheartedly with this assessment.

He showed these traits back when he was the 'leader' of the UIC when in fact he was a powerless figurehead. We saw him doling out absolution to warlords to get their military support, like some weird approximation of the Pope . We saw him run off to Eritrea, leaving behind all those young fighters to be bulldozed. Sharif is a limp-wristed weakling, and he's shown it time and time again.

And I thought things could only get better once Abdullahi Yusuf left the scene.

For those people making a distinction between Ethiopian soldiers and AMISOM, the rationale behind why an armed foreign force is in Somalia is irrelevant. It was irrelevant in the case of the UN Force in 1992. It was irrelevant when Ethiopia was there. It is irrelevant now that AMISOM is here to help the TNUG. The relevant part is that an armed foreign force is on Somali soil.

Rationale: explanation of reasons and principles !!
We have explained the REASONS why AMISOM has a legitimate presence in Somalia in our opinion.

Somebody that says 'irrelevant " to every proposal for mediation has no other fundamental reason but to OBSTRUCT and IMPOSE its own views !

^ I don't think the Mosques are at fault...there's only so much they can do, which they do (preaching Islam). It ain't like the kids who go missing show up in Al-Shabaab t-shirts before they leave, so how can the Imam and congregation know that these kids are getting brainwashed?

Shiikh Dalxiis indha adeygiisaan la yaabay! Wuxuu ku jiraa xilli adag oo xaajadiisu waa IIBSI LACAGEED. Wuxuu ashlaan ku gatay iimaankiisii, taasina waxay ka indho saabtay muuqaalkii RUNTA iyo XAQIIQADA ahaa. Wadiiqada runta ahi waxay tahay in Gaal la SAACIDO iyo LACAGTIIS aan meel lagu gaarin, balse ay tahay lama-maarmaan in dhabar adayg ay daacadnimo dheehan tahay lala yimaaddo xilliyada adag ee baahida loo qabo isku-xirnaan, isku tashi iyo wadashaqayn ka hufan ceeb iyo cudur silloon. Balse waxaynu eegi, aminta uu Shiikh Dalxiis ka soo laabto, "IIBSI LACAGEED."