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Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:52 pm
by Shirib
Now he's trying to get the misaajids in trouble talking about they are luring kids to fight.

No Sheik Shariif, it was u who lured them to fight, it wasn't the misaajids in North America who were screaming jihad, it was you, we have all your audio of screaming Jihad and now ur trynna put it on the misaajids
Young 'lured' to fight in Somalia, leader says


Stewart Bell, National Post
Saturday, November 21, 2009

The President of Somalia yesterday condemned the "luring" of young Somali-Canadians to his country to fight in an Islamist insurgency that is attempting to topple his government.

"We have heard that some young Somalis went missing in Canada and are presumed to be on their way to Somalia or are already here," President Sharif Sheikh Ahmed said.

"It is exploitation against these youngsters, against their parents and against the Somali people to smuggle the youngsters whose understanding of their religion and the country is limited and whose parents escaped with them from Somalia in the first place to give them a better life."

His comments at a news conference in Mogadishu came as the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service are investigating six Somali-Canadians who have left Toronto in recent weeks without telling their friends or parents.

The investigation has fallen to national security agencies because of a pattern of similar behaviour in the United States, where at least 20 young Somali-Americans have gone missing only to turn up in Somalia with Al-Shabab, an Islamist militia aligned with al-Qaeda.

The parents and Canadian authorities fear the missing Toronto youths may have travelled to Somalia to join Al-Shabab. One phoned home to say he is well and in Kenya, which shares a border with the Al-Shabab stronghold in southern Somalia.

Al-Shabab has been battling Somali troops and African Union peacekeepers in an attempt to turn the country into a Taliban-like state. In areas under Al-Shabab control, those deemed to have violated Islamic laws have been beheaded and stoned to death.

Of the Somali-Americans who joined Al-Shabab, one died while carrying out a suicide bombing and at least one other was shot dead. President Ahmed visited parents of some of the Americans during a recent visit to the United States.

Al-Qaeda has called the fight in Somalia a jihad and has been urging Muslims to join Al-Shabab. Ethnic Somalis and Muslim converts from the United States, United Kingdom and Australia have answered the call.

In a speech last month, RCMP Commissioner William Elliott said the same radicalization process may be at work in Canada as well, and Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan confirmed in an interview with the National Post this week that his agencies were concerned about extremism in the Somali-Canadian community.

At least some of the missing men worshipped at the Abu Huraira Centre, a mosque in North York. A message on the mosque's Internet home page yesterday read:

"Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) also reported that the Prophet said: 'There is no deed more precious in the sight of Allah, nor greater in reward, than a good deed done during the ten days of Sacrifice.' He was asked, 'Not even jihad for the sake of Allah?' He said, 'Not even jihad for the sake of Allah, except in the case of a man who went out to fight giving himself and his wealth up for the cause, and came back with nothing.'"

http://hiiraan.com/news2/2009/Nov/young ... _says.aspx

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:55 pm
by djibsomali
when did you realised???

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:55 pm
by Hyperactive
stupid and irrespobsible talk.

ino iska amusa lo qatay, he isnt smart enough to talk.

marko indo ade iyo aweys o talin jiren bo ba rona in 2006.
now i know they were brain behind him.

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:55 pm
by Mr. Yungnfresh
It looks like he changed his iman...i mean, mind.

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:59 pm
by Crazy Cat Lady
I dont think the mosques have indoctrinated these young men, but they haven't been active enough in getting to these vulnerable people before the extremists did.

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:01 pm
by Mr. Yungnfresh
^ I don't think the Mosques are at fault...there's only so much they can do, which they do (preaching Islam). It ain't like the kids who go missing show up in Al-Shabaab t-shirts before they leave, so how can the Imam and congregation know that these kids are getting brainwashed?

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:05 pm
by suga_delic
dat man nids 2 resign. Da country is worser than b4. :down:

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:07 pm
by djibsomali
This is him

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Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:08 pm
by Crazy Cat Lady
^ I don't think the Mosques are at fault...there's only so much they can do, which they do (preaching Islam). It ain't like the kids who go missing show up in Al-Shabaab t-shirts before they leave, so how can the Imam and congregation know that these kids are getting brainwashed?
You can tell when a kid is going down the wrong path, sudden changes in behaviour are obvious signs. Like one of the Minnisota kids was a big time gang member but in a few months he'd gone completely extreme. Alarm bells should have been ringing, people should have offered him help in understanding the deen as it should be, instead he listened to Anwar al-Awlaki tapes :down:

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:13 pm
by Mr. Yungnfresh
^ I don't think the Mosques are at fault...there's only so much they can do, which they do (preaching Islam). It ain't like the kids who go missing show up in Al-Shabaab t-shirts before they leave, so how can the Imam and congregation know that these kids are getting brainwashed?
You can tell when a kid is going down the wrong path, sudden changes in behaviour are obvious signs. Like one of the Minnisota kids was a big time gang member but in a few months he'd gone completely extreme. Alarm bells should have been ringing, people should have offered him help in understanding the deen as it should be, instead he listened to Anwar al-Awlaki tapes :down:
First of all, there's nothing wrong with Anwar Al-Awlaki and he's a respected scholar.

Secondly, there's no conclusive exclusive corelation between becoming more religious and becoming a terrorist (which is what Al-Shabaab are, cuz they terrorize the population). Maybe they won't, maybe they will....but maybe they won't. Internal thoughts are internal, and noone can usually foresee these things until they actually happen.

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:19 pm
by Crazy Cat Lady
First of all, there's nothing wrong with Anwar Al-Awlaki and he's a respected scholar.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Secondly, there's no conclusive exclusive corelation between becoming more religious and becoming a terrorist (which is what Al-Shabaab are, cuz they terrorize the population). Maybe they won't, maybe they will....but maybe they won't. Internal thoughts are internal, and noone can usually foresee these things until they actually happen.
I wasn't talking about becoming more religious, I was talking about extreme shifts in behaviour which should raise suspicions, they should take time to learn about the deen otherwise their is a risk that people will exploit their ignorance.

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:19 pm
by Shirib
CCL,

wanna know why those kids went to fight? Cause Shariif said they should go to fight, he was the one screaming jihad, it wasn't any of the mosques, it wasn't anyone in America, it was him

The only thing he missed telling us was that his Jihad wasn't fisabilliallah, but jihad fil Hawiye against Abdullahi Yusuf


Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:22 pm
by Crazy Cat Lady
^^ Yeah I don't understand that, why did people hate Abdullahi Yusuf so much?
Back then I heard two Somali women debating wheteher or not he was a Muslim :shock: :lol:

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:24 pm
by Shirib
^^ Yeah I don't understand that, why did people hate Abdullahi Yusuf so much?
Back then I heard two Somali women debating wheteher or not he was a Muslim :shock: :lol:
Sheik Shariif isn't even creative enough to get a new script, he's saying everything Abdullahi Yusuf was saying.

since ur late in the game here's a recap, in 2006 Abdullahi Yusuf was the President of the TFG, and Shariif was heading the Islamic Courts who were trying to overthrow him, u know kinda the same thing Shabaab and Xisbul Islam are doing to Shariif now

Re: Sheik Munafiq

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:28 pm
by Addoow
stupid and irrespobsible talk.

ino iska amusa lo qatay, he isnt smart enough to talk.

marko indo ade iyo aweys o talin jiren bo ba rona in 2006.
now i know they were brain behind him.


Go Learn How to construct proper english sentences before you badmouth someone who doesnt even know about your Little existance.



Shirip
I dont see where the President explicitly Says The Mosques lure the kids into fight.Your little Argument doesnt Make some damn sense.
Munafaqnimo isnt in your hands Marka spare us the calaacal .we all know your Motivations boil down to clan envy iyo qabiil.