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one of this the reasons that somalia will never have peace some somalis are ignorant foolish they support alshabaab and they try to justify the damage did by alshabaab by saying look what amisom is doing to somalis ok we know amisom are nothing different then alshabaab bunch of jareer who are careless but the reason they are in somalia is cause of alshabaab if their was no alshabaab amisom will leave but some somalis will say i support alshabaab bcoz alshabaab are fighting against amisom what if alshabaab stop the fire amisom will not stay but they are quickly to say we gonna fight amisom and everything remember is your land your people who dying in those fire somalis choose the hardest way when they can have the easiest way that is one of the things proofs iney somali madaxa kajirantahay god gave you a brain to use for godsake try to use lil bit dadka weydhamadeen weyna rafadeen and you have others who support alshabaab for qabiil reason. what i was talking about is look for example what this crazy user ironman wrote in another thread.





All the ppl stoned in Somalia since 2006 aren't even more then 5 ppl. and all those 5 ppl committed or were accused to commit adultery, murder or some other bad evil.

How many ppl did this year alone killed by Amissom shelling? how many thousands were killed by Ethiopian tanks? how many were killed by TFG shelling Bakara market?

Lets be realistic here, whether you are killed by stone, by gun, or by leathel injuction, it all house one purpose and that is to take your life. when you die, it's over, you don't care how you died.

American jails are filled with crimminals that are sentence to life and they take their own life, because they don't want to stay behind bars the rest of their lives. not to mention overcrowding, rape and all the money, food and healthcare spend on these crimminals.
Also, crimminals are excuted in Texas every month, do you see anybody talking about it?

The reason behind the stonning is so that God doesn't punish you in there hereafter, and to forgive your sins for the pain your felt.

that is my opinion.

tolive, My statment isn't defending Alshabab, It's defending the Sharia-law.

But Somalis are also emotional, not rational, because when one man is stonned, and is posted all over the magazines, they go crazy and demonstrate and condemn alshabaab etc, while at the same time 10 innocent ppl are killed here, 10 there, by TFG, AMISSOM, War-lords etc. Why are you crying for a one man that was accused of a crime, but you ignore the 8 kids that were killed today in Galdaduud by a landmine? You don't see their death reported on the internet and magazines? because nobody cares about them, since there is no special interest.

If you know me, you know that I'm against Alshabaab, Ahlu-sunnah, Xisbul-Islam and anybody else that is fighting for power at the expense of innocent civilians.
And there is nothing I like more then to see Somalia stand on it's two feet and have a functioning goverment, but with this weak TFG that has existed since Abdiqasim Salad and never stepped outside of Mogadishu, it's hard to support a failure like that. Not to mention it has all the support of EU, US , UN and AU. So what is it's problem? why can't they take over just Mogadishu and make it peaceful just one night like Islamic courts did for 6 months with less support and money? like Alshabaab is doing in Kismayo now and all the other cities they took over?

alshabaab is already controling 80% of the South without the level of support that TFG has.
Somalis having been fighting for 20yrs and everybody is disgusted with the level of choas and human tragedy submerging the country.
If Darod just give up and say to a Hawiye, we are done, lead us now, or Hawiye give up and said, we are done come and take it, they would both prospered and enjoyed a peaceful life, jobs, and educations for themselves and their kids (so are they smart enough to trade the presidency for peace and prosperity?) and finally would get their chance lead peacefully, instead of living in shellshock, in refugee camps and in constant run, just because they are full of pride and don't want to admit another person to lead them, his brother with the same religion, language and color to represent them. they rather lose everything and die refugee in foriegn lands.
But, what do you know, these ppl are manipulated, brainwashed and are emotional, not rational, intelligent or educated. they live in a vacuum, If it's not their clan , they think about their sub-clan and sub-sub-clan etc.

tolive, My statment isn't defending Alshabab, It's defending the Sharia-law.

But Somalis are also emotional, not rational, because when one man is stonned, and is posted all over the magazines, they go crazy and demonstrate and condemn alshabaab etc, while at the same time 10 innocent ppl are killed here, 10 there, by TFG, AMISSOM, War-lords etc. Why are you crying for a one man that was accused of a crime, but you ignore the 8 kids that were killed today in Galdaduud by a landmine? You don't see their death reported on the internet and magazines? because nobody cares abou them, since there is no special interest.

If you know me, you know that I'm against Alshabaab, Ahlu-sunnah, Xisbul-Islam and anybody else that is fightings for power at the expense of innocent civilians.
And there is nothing I like more then to see Somalia stand on it's two feet and have a functioning goverment, but with this weak TFG that has existed since Abdiqasim Salad and never stepped outside of Mogadishu it's hard to side with failure like that. Not to mention it has all the support of EU, US , UN and AU. So where is it's problem, why can't they take over just Mogadishu and make it peaceful just one night like Islamic courts did for 6 months with less support and money? like Alshabaab is doing in Kismayo now and all the other cities they took over?

And alshabaab is already controling 80% of the South without the level of support that TFG has.
Somalis having been fighting for 20yrs and everybody is disgusted with the level of choas and lawlessness submerging the country.
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I have been partially part of--not much as of late--the emotional-led camp for quite sometime now. I personally believe anyone who supports any entity in Somalia today is misguided, ignorant, and cares less for the suffering masses. However, this constant lamenting of Al-shababa/Xisbul Islam as the only wrongdoers is a bit to much to take; have we ever asked ourselves why their wrongs are heightened in the media? It is not an attack on Shabab/Xisbul Islam, but an attack against our religion. One can argue the timing and applying of such actions in state such as Somalia, where the masses have been in a constant state of war and suffering for the last twenty years, with minimal education and economic stability--I am understanding of such points, and it is a stance that I myself have. But,the demonization of these laws in the media and by the West is nothing further then an open aggression to negate divine laws and deter the Muslims from applying in their life by presenting it as barbaric. We, Somalinet members, are a witness to such brainwashing when members such as Hutuking state that laws in our sharia are not befitting for the Muslims of the 21st century. Yet, as you stated, no really mentions or cares for the many civilians who are being killed as a result of the the TFG/AU/Ethiopia and so on, but as soon as one individual is killed because of religious reasons it is all over everywhere. I reinforce, that it is my firm conviction that sharia law in Somalia should be applied to such an extent under strict scrutiny and under the watchful eyes of Islamic scholars, and when the country is stable.

Somalia is still in Clan Politics and will continue to do so, everyone wants Power, Respect, and Money, some have become so desprate they are trying to use Islam to achieve this goal but have failed and will continue to do so. Let the War Continue until there is a Clear winner, even if it takes another 20 years. Once the olil starts flowing in Puntland I will make sure we enslave those that need to be enslaved, and Bullshid like Somalidiid iyo Al Shabaab will be brought on there nees. The founding Fathers of Somalia lineage are bound to rule, and until that happens there is no need for Peace.

AMISOM doesn't have a hidden agenda in Somalia. The civilian deaths at the hands of AMISOM troops were for the most part fueled by the devilish rebel groups. The people in Mogadishu know that AMISOM is not a threat. Only the supporters of those extremist groups are afflicted by the presence of peacekeepers.

Somalia is still in Clan Politics and will continue to do so, everyone wants Power, Respect, and Money, some have become so desprate they are trying to use Islam to achieve this goal but have failed and will continue to do so. Let the War Continue until there is a Clear winner, even if it takes another 20 years. Once the olil starts flowing in Puntland I will make sure we enslave those that need to be enslaved, and Bullshid like Somalidiid iyo Al Shabaab will be brought on there nees. The founding Fathers of Somalia lineage are bound to rule, and until that happens there is no need for Peace.

"The people who are dragging American bodies (through Somalia) don't look very hungry to the people of Texas
senator Phil Gramm

to me that quote explains somalia: malnourished and aggressive,

AMISOM doesn't have a hidden agenda in Somalia. The civilian deaths at the hands of AMISOM troops were for the most part fueled by the devilish rebel groups. The people in Mogadishu know that AMISOM is not a threat. Only the supporters of those extremist groups are afflicted by the presence of peacekeepers.

The People of Mogadishu are a threat to Somali Society themselves. Marka Fuck them as well!!!! They do not want Government, atleast the family occupying our hard earned family home there.

Anarchy favors the Somalis of the South.

Somalian Boqor - I hope the south can emulate the great State of Puntland in every way possible. Your family house in MOG is it intact or turned to a Greek ruin?

Somalian Boqor - I hope the south can emulate the great State of Puntland in every way possible. Your family house in MOG is it intact or turned to a Greek ruin?

The one in Hodan is in Ruins, but another Villa is still standing and pretty strong, my father called the family that lives there now and they told him to fuck off and that it was their house now. The family wa Al Shabaab as their son fights for the group. If this was the War_lord days we would have gotten our Murursade cousins on them.

We are trying to sell the place to an wealthy Cery Family.

The one in Hodan is in Ruins, but another Villa is still standing and pretty strong, my father called the family that lives there now and they told him to fuck off and that it was their house now. The family wa Al Shabaab as their son fights for the group. If this was the War_lord days we would have gotten our Murursade cousins on them.

We are trying to sell the place to an wealthy Cery Family.

Those squatters should start paying rent.

THERE IS ONLY 1 REASON SOMALIA WILL NEVER B PEACE N DAT IS EVERY1 WANTS 2B A LEADER NO1 WANTS 2B LED. U CNT HAVE COUNTRY FULL OF LEADERS.