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nimanyaho naxdin waxaan ka qaaday nimanka Hawiyaha that AFTER 19 years they still think they live under paradise

maalinkasta 50 people die in Mogadishu, get raped, shelled, wax kasta oo ka fog bini adamka and they still think they're living under a new revolution

Hawiye should just park their dameer, shut their piehole once and for all and say "Sorry Somalis, we fukked up" and ask for guidance from the Dooro then go back to what they are good at doing, Eat their maankaal and cambuulo and do their menial jobs.

Hawlaha waa la kala leeyahay yaakhee

Hawiye should just park their dameer, shut their piehole once and for all and say "Sorry Somalis, we fukked up" and ask for guidance from the Dooro then go back to what they are good at doing, Eat their maankaal and cambuulo and do their menial jobs.

Hawlaha waa la kala leeyahay yaakhee

Here Lies the Answer You are looking for Koronto. As long as people with this mentality are around Somalia Will always be fucked up. As Long as Darood, Hawiye believe that each superior to the other, your country is fucked. But than forget about 1991 Somali's today have dug themselves a hole that will take atleast a hundred years to get out and its called Al Shabab.

King of awdal, what are you suggesting? That We upgrade them from doing manual jobs to junior office duties?

Twisted,

I agree with you that Somalia could've done better and we deserved a better government. My argument here is, sometimes its better the devil you know than the one you don't know. MSB was one individual, his administration consisted of numerous individuals who used it for their own personal agendas & to score personal vendettas. Its very simplistic to pin all of the mayhem on a man who was well in to his 70s.

Not to mention that we at least had a government. I was 12 years old in 1990 and remember what it was like to grow up in a peaceful Somalia, go to a free school, go to isbitaal Digfeer for medical treatment free of charge, go to Baraawe for vacations, go to a soccer match at Stadium Muqdisho, listen to Radio Muqdisho in our car, etc.

All of it was lost for the greed of a few individuals.

Koronto,

While you were enjoying peace and comfort, there were hundreds of thousands of Somalis were displaced in refugee camps in Ethiopia, cities were being laid to waste, hundreds were being killed by the Government you defend, and yet you have the audacity to praise the megalomaniac who gave you a semblance of normality ? Even in Xamar at that time, there was a brutal crack down on the Opposition who were not even USC.


Again, Mengistu Haile Mariam walked away peacefully and lives out his days in Harare. He did not fight inside Addis Ababa, he took his followers with him into exile and turned the keys to the new victorious party.

MSB fought in the city, sowed the seeds of the Darood-Hawiye war inside Xamar, fled to Gedo then asked Daniel Arap Moi for military assistance to recapture Xamar only to fail again in 1992 before being driven into permanent exile.

So, yes, as President of Somalia for 21 years, he deserves the lion's share of the blame just as some credit him with the lion's share of the progress over the same time.

Koronto77 baal walaal st. paul ka waraan.

Hawiyes gained nothing but destruction and suffering after MSB (AUN), he was a great man who atleast tamed these moryans for 21 years.

grandpakhalif your anti hawiye sentiments are not appropriate walaal.

I sometimes wonder if AW even a human. Sheesh.

I sometimes wonder if AW even a human. Sheesh.

Thank you Nabeela, at least you did not call for my death

I sometimes wonder if AW even a human. Sheesh.

Nabz,

A/Wahaab's info in relation to the Somali civil war is based on second hand info, dude was chilling in Dar-Es_Salam when Somalia was going through the "Hawiye Carnage" period. H left Somalia right after Siad barre took over and was living with his Degodia mom. So he has multiple versions of the saga and doesn't know which one is the truth, plus he has to spice it up once in a while.

A/Wahab, keep up the good work waryaa

Sir Luggoyo,

Thanks mate.

I refuse to be spoon fed of a fake Utopia pre1991 Somalia. To blame everything on the USC is intellectually dishonest

But for an older person, Luggoyo, you have to stop misleading these kids into believing Siyad was a Saint and that he committed no crimes against the Somali people.

As for my Degodie abtiyaal, bless them For they were excellent hosts and supportive kin

grandpakhalif your anti hawiye sentiments are not appropriate walaal.

they are appropriate because my darood brethren had to suffer because of their moryan mentality

Haa heey.........Let the destruction continue......

All I know is the plan did not work the way it was intended..........

Anywayz, I conclude my participation in this thread because I will never convince the MSB lovers of anything and they won't convince me of their view points.

May Allah forgive us all of our sins

P.S. This thread exposes the hypocritical nature of the Moderators who refuse to move it to the General Politics or Clan Politics section