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Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:22 pm
by xoogSADE14
Diyeeshe

With respect to Kenya, I think they increased the number of ministries after the recent political crisis when the PM post was created as way to end the violence until the next election. That number will probably be decreased after theres a clear winner in the next election, Kenya also has the largest economy in East Africa.

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:33 pm
by Executive
Executive

You forgot the following;

Wasiiirka Macdanta iyo Biyaha --- Wasiirka Shidaalka iyo Tamarta

Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga --- Wasiiru Doowlaha Gaashaandhiga

Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha --- Wasiiru Doowlaha Arrimaha Gudaha
wasiirka xanaanada xoolaha iyo wasiirka reer miyiga iyo duur joogta,,,lol waa laba wasaaradood.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: damn

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:36 pm
by James Dahl
It's all qabiil politics, guy's clan won't support the government unless their MP has a minister title.

Problem isn't the TFG, the problem is qabiil-based politics.

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:38 pm
by Voltage
Problem isn't the TFG, the problem is qabiil-based politics.
:up:

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:45 pm
by AbdiWahab252
It's all qabiil politics, guy's clan won't support the government unless their MP has a minister title.

Problem isn't the TFG, the problem is qabiil-based politics.

James,

A better system would be based on how much $$$, manpower and might you bring to the TFG, the more you do, the better your portfolio choice.

Rewarding paperlords, civil society and other nonarmed characters is useless.

How can you reward Sharif Hassan as a Finance Minister, or Omar Abdirashid as PM, or Sheik Sharif as President when all three can not bring significant manpower or clan power to assist the TFG in its war against the Qaeda :down:

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:54 pm
by Voltage
How can you reward Sharif Hassan as a Finance Minister, or Omar Abdirashid as PM, or Sheik Sharif as President when all three can not bring significant manpower or clan power to assist the TFG in its war against the Qaeda :down:
So make the link between national governance and clan power linked. :down:

Ironically one of the few things all Somalis can support about Al Shabaab is the social transformation they have jump-started which has de-emphasized the political nature of clans. :up:

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:56 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Voltage,

Al Shabab is a clan outfit as shown by its inaction/lack of brutality outside Hawiyedom :down:

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:02 pm
by Voltage
Voltage,

Al Shabab is a clan outfit as shown by its inaction/lack of brutality outside Hawiyedom :down:
Do you ever say anything remarkable?

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:04 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Voltage,

If you mean remarkable as in praising known terrorist organizations, I am not remarkable.


I don't speak fondly of terrorist organizations, praise them or in any way condone their actions.

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:11 pm
by Voltage
The fact they have deemphasized if not destroyed tribal politics from the places they rule is not up for debate.

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:43 pm
by Hoowle
The whole purpose of these ministries is not to actually run the country, however effective, but to placate deranged Somalis who demand sub-sub-sub clan representation.

Blame Somalis, not the TFG.

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:45 pm
by nomadicwarlord
Cabinet posts should be allocated to qualified individuals regardless of their clan identity. 90% of Somali politicians only qualify for the Defense portfolio. :lol:

Re: Duplicate ministries of TFG

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:48 pm
by Mad May
I've seen a guy who's an MP in Xamar, he doesnt get paid and has to pay for his own security, muxuu ka rabay? :|