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Why is it sad? This is about the only aspect of the Shabaab phenomenon that is positive for Somalia.Patriot,
You're drunk of caanoboore again. The Boss of both Absame and Marexaan in Kismaayo today is a Idoor. Sad but true
Why is it sad? This is about the only aspect of the Shabaab phenomenon that is positive for Somalia.Patriot,
You're drunk of caanoboore again. The Boss of both Absame and Marexaan in Kismaayo today is a Idoor. Sad but true
Galia ii waran, how is everything sis/brah?
Maybe I should write the full quote from the Sade private excerpt I gave you in my last response:I know that but why would V start bragging about this organisation? I mean is it just because a Marexan is still incharge of Kista?
If Shabaab had put a non marexan in Kista & Gedo how would he react?
Would his article be the same ?
Cool Poison what's been said here reminds me of colonial Africa trying to transition into post-colonial Africa. You had the British giving the Mende, the Temne, the Fulla, Creole etc separate political leadership to the point every tribe acted as a sovereign and viewed itself individual and it took Sierra Leone 60 years and one of Africa's most destructive civil wars and a British re-invasion to fashion them into the even shaky nation it is today.
I do shake my head with disappointment when I see a young Somali men who are educated still following a tribal hegemony political outlook in place of a national objective. It is as if we cannot even fathom to see a Somali nation which should be our overall state.
The number one reason why I supported Shabaab (and I still support this aspect of them) is because an Isaaq man is leader in Kismaayo and no Mareexaan, no Ogaadeen, no one can bat an eye and question his legitimacy to be there without getting their socks knocked off. Warsame writes here a reer Siyaad recounting a Shabaab militia in Garbahareey. What point does it make if they have Gaaljecel in them or not? That SPDC speaking against the organization of Shabaab and protesting their conduct is one thing, calling upon the tribal emotions of the audience with "ayagoo Gaaljecel ah" and "my city" shows exactly why that nature of Shabaab is a blessing to Somalia. Does it make it better if the guy was a Marehan Shabaab and if it does, is that not the crux of the matter of why Somalia has fallen so low and cannot get up? Get them off of the tribal political mindset!
If you talk to Ogaadeen they will say, Shabaab "ayagoo Mareexaan ah" bay Kismaayo haysadaan. Bal eeg, Shabaab is an organization that is not run on clan, does not use clan as political foundation, and has no clan ambitions why does it matter the clan compositions of their representatives when they should be judged based on the ideology that brought them together?
War when and only when Somalis start saying Shabaab "ayagoo xagjir ah" will we see the first signs of sophistication of political positioning and should show us the social transformation created has worked. Until then, waxa uga sii fiican inay ku jiraan ma arko except an established and full functioning central government. I shudder to think of Somalia reverting back to the tribal factionalism of the pre-ICU days. It is trully an extreme form of socio-politico retardation and its stagnant history is a judge.
If you say sad because he is an alleged former dhuxul thief, I get it. If you say sad because he is Isaaq, I don't get it.Why is it sad? This is about the only aspect of the Shabaab phenomenon that is positive for Somalia.Patriot,
You're drunk of caanoboore again. The Boss of both Absame and Marexaan in Kismaayo today is a Idoor. Sad but true
Galia ii waran, how is everything sis/brah?
Actually it is sad. This focker a former dhuxul thief in Hargeisa is now ruling over Your waayeel, dumar, etc. How is that not sad?
MashallahLots at laughs at patriot
Voltage i am fine, the TFG is fine and Galmudug is shining, mashallah
Voltage, i support al-shabaab, thats only the ones in Kismayoo, the minute the fcukers come to Hawiye ends is the minute we burn them alive.
the minute the fcukers come to Hawiye ends is the minute we burn them alive.
the minute the fcukers come to Hawiye ends is the minute we burn them alive.
[/quote]Cool Poison what's been said here reminds me of colonial Africa trying to transition into post-colonial Africa. You had the British giving the Mende, the Temne, the Fulla, Creole etc separate political leadership to the point every tribe acted as a sovereign and viewed itself individual and it took Sierra Leone 60 years and one of Africa's most destructive civil wars and a British re-invasion to fashion them into the even shaky nation it is today.
I do shake my head with disappointment when I see a young Somali man who are educated still following a tribal hegemony political outlook in place of a national objective. It is as if he cannot even fathom or see a Somali nation which should be our overall state.
The number one reason why I supported Shabaab (and I still support this aspect of them) is because an Isaaq man is leader in Kismaayo and no Mareexaan, no Ogaadeen, no one can bat an eye and question his legitimacy to be there without getting their sock's knocked off. Warsame writes here a reer Siyaad recounting a Shabaab militia in Garbahareey. What point does it make if they have Gaaljecel in them or not? That SPDC speaking against the organization of Shabaab and protesting their conduct is one thing, calling upon the tribal emotions of the audience with "ayagoo Gaaljecel ah" and "my city" shows exactly why that nature of Shabaab is a blessing to Somalia. Does it make it better if the guy was a Marehan Shabaab and if it does, is that not the crux of the matter of why Somalia has fallen so low and cannot get up? Get them off of the tribal political mindset!
If you talk to Ogaadeen they will say, Shabaab "ayagoo Mareexaan ah" bay Kismaayo haysadaan. Bal eeg, Shabaab is an organization that is not run on clan, does not use clan as political foundation, and has no clan ambitions why does it matter the clan compositions of their representatives when they should be judged based on the ideology that brought them together?
War when and only when Somalis start saying Shabaab "ayagoo xagjir ah" will we see the first signs of sophistication of political positioning and should show us the social transformation created has worked. Until then, waxa uga sii fiican inay ku jiraan ma arko except an established and full functioning central government. I shudder to think of Somalia reverting back to the tribal factionalism of the pre-ICU days. It is trully an extreme form of socio-politico retardation and its stagnant history is a judge.
Sxb waa muwaadin. Any Somali man is a muwaadin of any Somali land. In civil war times, degaan basically itnerchanges with tribe. In pre-civil war Somalia, deegaan interchanged with actual residency. What makes the Mareexaan from Caabudwaaq acceptable in Kismaayo or the Ogaadeen from Qoroxay, but not the Isaaq man from Hargeisa? Deegaanka is a code word for tribe in these times.Well actually its not the fact that He's Isaaq but its that He's not from deeganka. Wallahi I wouldn't care if it was a local Biyomaal, Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal, OGadeen, Marexaan etc. laakin someone that is not from deeganka and on top of that is a shady figuire is unacceptable. Even America who's political system You admire from afar always uses campaign slogans for their polititions like "I was born and rasied Here". Thats like the first thing campaigners use, When they are running for office in a State as a Governer/Senator etc. Are You telling Me Reer Jubba cannot find educated, capable people that hail from deeganka to lead?
Why is it sad? This is about the only aspect of the Shabaab phenomenon that is positive for Somalia.
Galia ii waran, how is everything sis/brah?
Again you need to go back to the premise of my argument. I don't care about Shabaab the organization per se, I only highlight one redeeming consequence of their rise which is the destablization of the tribal political structure. An Isaaq man is governor of Jubba, a Majeerteen man heads Merka, etc etc etc but the fact is none of these people are working for the tribes they belong to. They are working for a single organization, and no matter how grave that organization this is a phenemon new to the Somali people in the civil war. Why are you stuck on a Mareexaan man is head of Kismaayo for them? That Mareexaan man is the same one who chased away the Mareexaan militias. He doesn't represent Mareexaan nor did he get that position because Mareexaan rule but rather because he is a member of that organization. Basically I am saying have qualms a Shabaab member is head of Kismaayo, but don't be stuck on his tribe which is irrelevant to his standing in that organization.dude The head of Juboyinka is Idoor while that cannot be said is true of Kista. ok lets forget about Marexan for know tell me what security they have brought in juboyinka that has been missing after the fall of MSB govt.
What other thing apart from security have they also brought? I mean you know that no schools, hospitals, institutions have been built all they do is threaten the west and siphon the revenue from kista prot which was last renovated by MSB govt.
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