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I can’t believe some of you call yourselves Muslim, yet you call what Allah made halaal, what allah written in his book, ridiculous, silly, very disturbing and Ninja shit. It just shows how low some Muslims have gone; due to the fact that you have been brained washed by western ‘liberty’ ideas. If Liberty is good thing, then why should we please anyone? Isn’t the whole point of liberty, and democracy freedom to practice what you like, and dress how you like? Why should Muslim women dress how the society wants them to, but not how God wants them? Why is it that it makes you happy to see half naked Somali sister but not full covered because you see her as back warded, not educated and just came from Somali?

Obviously their target of dividing and conquering the minds of Muslims have worked, And when/ if Islam fails is always because of people like you. It doesn’t bother you the gay parades of London and New York, I never see you guys condemning the acts of homosexuality, drinking, teen pregnancies, or how these hippies dress, but when it comes to Muslim women and how they dress you are the first to point at what you think is wrong.

And the little silly girl that’s running her mouth claiming they wear the niqab because of bad reputation, question. What about Somali mothers? Do they have something to hide too?

FYI little girl Niqaab is Islamic, is mentioned in the Quran.when you say Niqab is not Islamic bring proof don’t just utter every rubbish that comes to your mind.

Top post walaal, I believe those that are concerned with sisters wearing hijaab or niqaab are insecure about themselves and realise that they are in great error so they wish that them sisters stoop down to their level aswell.

Are you dense?

what about Somali mothers? Do they have something to hide too?

With most Somali girls who wear it (not all ) they probably used to have a reputation

By girls i mean young girls (late teens +), not older mothers, can you not see what I put in parenthesis?

bring proof don’t just utter every rubbish that comes to your mind for the quote below

I posted the evidence for my arguments, quran and hadith, I even put the important parts in bold, what more do you want?
And no I'm not a scholar, nor are you evidently, so yes I did have to use google, but these are arguments made by many other Muslim's
Safe.

To those against the Niqaab

Ninja, niqaab, naked... who the hell cares? who are you to judge anyone?

Mad may
Why the hell do you care if they had a reputation, do you wish that they'd continue their old lifestyles instead?

Why yall hating on niqaabi I find them funner and nicer ppl
Mad May it is islamic and permissible don't say it's unislamic, Infact it is highly recommended by most scholars. I encourage you to wear it.

Mad may
Why the hell do you care if they had a reputation, do you wish that they'd continue their old lifestyles instead?

I don't care, I was offering an explanation of the niqaabi phenomenon amongst Somali girls based on my own observations.

Mad may
Why the hell do you care if they had a reputation, do you wish that they'd continue their old lifestyles instead?

I don't care, I was offering an explanation of the niqaabi phenomenon amongst Somali girls based on my own observations.

honestly where do all of you people live ??

in my mosque there was two girls who used to wear niqab, but they have quit to use it now

The sunnah says hands iyo face looma bahno inii la qariiyo

^^No actually it's compulsory to wear the full hijab and it is sunnah to cover the face i.e. niqab as the wives of the prophet(SCW) used to. In Islam if you aren't knowledgable in something the best thing to do is to not comment so as to not mislead people.

The Niqaab is something some sisters wear so that they can be like the Mothers of the Believers...its not fard, but for sisters who strive to wear it through the hardship, we should encourage them and not mock them...mocking the Niqaab wearers makes one a faasiq. The Mothers of the Believers where given more of a duty than other Muslim women, and if someone wishes to go out and beyond what is merely required, knowing full well they will get tested for it, makes them very strong.

Mad may
Why the hell do you care if they had a reputation, do you wish that they'd continue their old lifestyles instead?

I don't care, I was offering an explanation of the niqaabi phenomenon amongst Somali girls based on my own observations.

At the battle of Tabuk, some Sahaaba said from their observation, the people who memorize Quran (Huffaaz) are usually the ones that flee from the battlefield. Then the ayah was revealed;

If you question them, they declare: We were only joking." Say: "Was it at Allah, and His ayah, and His Messenger, that you were joking?

Make no excuses: you have disbelieved after you had believed..

(Surah At-Tawbah 65,66)

Attributing any act of Ibaada to fisq is flirting with kufr. Saying women who wear niqaab have a loose history is right along those lines. Whether that is what you observed or not doesn't matter.

The Niqaab is something some sisters wear so that they can be like the Mothers of the Believers...its not fard, but for sisters who strive to wear it through the hardship, we should encourage them and not mock them...mocking the Niqaab wearers makes one a faasiq. The Mothers of the Believers where given more of a duty than other Muslim women, and if someone wishes to go out and beyond what is merely required, knowing full well they will get tested for it, makes them very strong.

The Niqaab is something some sisters wear so that they can be like the Mothers of the Believers...its not fard, but for sisters who strive to wear it through the hardship, we should encourage them and not mock them...mocking the Niqaab wearers makes one a faasiq. The Mothers of the Believers where given more of a duty than other Muslim women, and if someone wishes to go out and beyond what is merely required, knowing full well they will get tested for it, makes them very strong.

I couldn't give a toss if a woman decided to cover herself from top to toe.
However, doing so in Western countries leads to social exclusions.
There was a group of muslims in Wembley Central about a month ago or so, both male and female and they were spreading their knowledge of the diin and tried to gain the attention of non-muslims by approaching them and informing them about our beliefs. The females were wearing the 'ninja' outfit that's being discussed here and to no surprise, whenever they tried to approach females they were quickly avoided.

Ps: Don't they come in other colours than black?

^^No actually it's compulsory to wear the full hijab and it is sunnah to cover the face i.e. niqab as the wives of the prophet(SCW) used to. In Islam if you aren't knowledgable in something the best thing to do is to not comment so as to not mislead people.

It is sunnah? You should take your own advice dude I've never heard that the niqaab was sunnah
There are plenty of hadiths which show that the showing of womens face and hands is preferred, i.e. normal hijaab

Ayesha (R) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (R) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands. (Abu Dawood)

Abdullah bin Abbas reports that the Prophet was riding a camel with Al-Fadhl, Abdullah's brother, behind him. A beautiful woman came to ask the Prophet about the Hajj of her father. Al Fadhl began to stare at her; her beauty impressed him a lot. The Prophet (peace be upon him) having noticed this while Al Fadhl was busy looking, put his hand behind and turned his face away from her hither and thither as she went along with them. Al Abbas said to the Prophet, "you are twisting the neck of your nephew!" The Prophet replied, "I noticed that both the boy and the girl were young; and I feared that Satan may intervene". (Bukhari and Tirmidhi)

The Niqaab is something some sisters wear so that they can be like the Mothers of the Believers...its not fard, but for sisters who strive to wear it through the hardship, we should encourage them and not mock them...mocking the Niqaab wearers makes one a faasiq. The Mothers of the Believers where given more of a duty than other Muslim women, and if someone wishes to go out and beyond what is merely required, knowing full well they will get tested for it, makes them very strong.

No-one should mock Muslimah's
If the Mothers of the Believers wore the niqaab, I'm not sure they did, it would be something only expected of them because of their political position at the time

O Wives of the Prophet! You are not like any of the other women.
Quran 33:32

They are bringing unnecessary hardship to themselves though, there's jihaad and then there's trying to make life difficult