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Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:09 pm
by new-york24
How does what goes on between shabaab and onlf affect me?
I dont see the flag or the leaders abroad,i mainly focus on wiilka hawdka jooga ee gaalka xabada la hortaagan.
insha allah onlf will morf into a jihadi movement in the near future 
I severely doubt they would. ONLF Has went out of its way many time to say that We are nothing more than a liberation movement fighting for self determination. Their logic is this will give them some political clout internationally and allow them to manauver more. I've never seen them say anything about Shariah or anything like that, just "we are Somali Muslims".
I learned long ago to never say never.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:13 pm
by Murax
How does what goes on between shabaab and onlf affect me?
I dont see the flag or the leaders abroad,i mainly focus on wiilka hawdka jooga ee gaalka xabada la hortaagan.
insha allah onlf will morf into a jihadi movement in the near future 
I severely doubt they would. ONLF Has went out of its way many time to say that We are nothing more than a liberation movement fighting for self determination. Their logic is this will give them some political clout internationally and allow them to manauver more. I've never seen them say anything about Shariah or anything like that, just "we are Somali Muslims".
I learned long ago to never say never.
Their logic is even though Meles tried many times to put ONLF as a International Terror Group, He failed even when neoconservaitism was at its highest during the Bush days, and the Republicans Had the Senate. That is their strategy.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:17 pm
by new-york24
Well i dont agree with that logic,and all things are due for correction.
The sooner we fix that and turn to our creater the better.
Am just against nationalism no matter whos doing it.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:18 pm
by Hyperactive
ny wo jilbeysan yahay.
give him time wo iska so dagi.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:18 pm
by new-york24
ny wo jilbeysan yahay.
give him time wo iska so dagi.

Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:22 pm
by Voltage
Fighting, fighting, fighting, ...no development, no peace, no effective policies nthing.
AL Shabaab has ended tribalism in Somalia by overpowering the warlords.
And then what? What do illiterate boys under the command of international outlaws whose interests are against peace because they need to hide somewhere lawless bode for the Somali people?
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:28 pm
by Murax
ny wo jilbeysan yahay.
give him time wo iska so dagi.

Voltage,
When I see people support Shabab and see it as a wonderful status quo, that is When I get in that Somalis have really fallen off look. I mean, having Your Country be a playground and battleground for the whole world is a viable option?
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:28 pm
by abdalla11
NY wadaad maad noqotay, khushouc oo caadi ahayn baa ku hayo?
lakiin tell me one thing: who is sponsoring al-shabaab? they are very mysterious and i do not follow what i don't know
36. And follow not (O man i.e., say not, or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge...
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:35 pm
by new-york24
NY wadaad maad noqotay, khushouc oo caadi ahayn baa ku hayo?
lakiin tell me one thing: who is sponsoring al-shabaab? they are very mysterious and i do not follow what i don't know
36. And follow not (O man i.e., say not, or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge...
I have no idea who shabaab are sxb,i hear of them from time to time here on s-net.
murax ma adaa hayper igu soo diray

Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:37 pm
by Murax
abdalla11,
Where I really ruled out Shabab ever being a viable option to rule Somalia, was When I found out the top 3 leaders in the orginization are not even Somali
That faisal dude that was killed in a drone attack was 3rd in command and this Issaq Abu Zubayr dude everybody actually thinks leads Shabab was promoted to 3rd. How come the whole world Has their own citizens ruling, while Somalia doesn't? These folks that came from other Countries (I think their numbers are greatly exaggerated btw, but they do exist) Why don't they go to their OWN Countries and fight them? Also, why do these dudes cover their face and their leaders wear niqaab?
ny24,
Listen to Your Young Sheikh

Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:40 pm
by ModerateMuslim
abdalla,
stop backbiting and casting suspicion over the mujahideen. al-shabab are known - they're the sons of islam who're striving to make allah's word uppermost in somalia.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:43 pm
by new-york24
abdalla11,
Where I really ruled out Shabab ever being a viable option to rule Somalia, was When I found out the top 3 leaders in the orginization are not even Somali
That faisal dude that was killed in a drone attack was 3rd in command and this Issaq Abu Zubayr dude everybody actually thinks leads Shabab was promoted to 3rd. How come the whole world Has their own citizens ruling, while Somalia doesn't? These folks that came from other Countries (I think their numbers are greatly exaggerated btw, but they do exist) Why don't they go to their OWN Countries and fight them? Also, why do these dudes cover their face and their leaders wear niqaab?
ny24,
Listen to Your Young Sheikh

war alle ka cabso ninyahoow,dont become a gossiping old hag.
you know well who took over after ceyroow,cant beat em slander them is whats going on.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:46 pm
by ModerateMuslim
Fighting, fighting, fighting, ...no development, no peace, no effective policies nthing.
AL Shabaab has ended tribalism in Somalia by overpowering the warlords.
And then what? What do illiterate boys under the command of international outlaws whose interests are against peace because they need to hide somewhere lawless bode for the Somali people?
the shariah, fool. its all bout the shariah. development, peace iyo the like are worthless without establishing the rule of allah. that's the mindset a muslim should have.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:54 pm
by Murax
abdalla11,
Where I really ruled out Shabab ever being a viable option to rule Somalia, was When I found out the top 3 leaders in the orginization are not even Somali
That faisal dude that was killed in a drone attack was 3rd in command and this Issaq Abu Zubayr dude everybody actually thinks leads Shabab was promoted to 3rd. How come the whole world Has their own citizens ruling, while Somalia doesn't? These folks that came from other Countries (I think their numbers are greatly exaggerated btw, but they do exist) Why don't they go to their OWN Countries and fight them? Also, why do these dudes cover their face and their leaders wear niqaab?
ny24,
Listen to Your Young Sheikh

war alle ka cabso ninyahoow,dont become a gossiping old hag.
you know well who took over after ceyroow,cant beat em slander them is whats going on.
Not fearing Allah would be not telling the truth. Shabab's top leaders are not Somali, look it up. Actually the actual supreme leader may not even be alive or exist, Where does "labayk yaa osama" come from?
Another fact is their leaders wear niqaab to travel from time to time, and that they never show their faces.
Re: EAST africa has been claimed by mighty men
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:02 pm
by new-york24
we wont argue about the leadership,its well known who the amiir is.
I would like you to prove it if not lets not waste too much time on rumors.