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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Voltage » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:44 pm

Well dawwa, Cote D'Ivoire has always been an exceptional country within Africa due to Felix Houphouet-Boigny. He ruled the country for more than 3 decades as if it was still a French colony under a black governor. Everything had to be exactly like France, the judicial system, the social life, system of governance, an economy that served its patron France and so on and sofort. Even though Cote D'Ivoire became one of the wealthiest and most stable countries of Subsaharan Africa, it was mainly the whites and Lebanese in Abidjan that profited the most, not the Ivorians.

Voltage would have loved Felix.
Don't blame Felix and it is not just Ivory Coast. The Lebenese have ruled economically in West Africa even before the Whites.

p.s. Your lame joke is getting played out, son.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Murax » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:44 pm

Daawa,

Well I said it was a phobia, not necessairly reality.


Abdalla,

Somalis are super reer baadiye. Only place they are interested in going is Kenya, dubai and their home residence i.e Europe, America, Austarilia.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Murax » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:46 pm

Cinque,

Would Ivory Coast be at the same level if it was run by Ivorians?

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Voltage » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:50 pm

Capetown, South Africa
THe Cape valley outside of Cape Town is the most beautiful land on the face of this earth that I have seen.

If you watch the movie Avator, the forest reminded me of the cape valey wallahi.
If it wasn't for the high rates of crime, I would actually consider moving to cape town to live there permanently. i once saw a short documentary shot in that same exact area you are referring to and it is absolutely breathtaking. i get to see the table mountain in person at once in my lifetime.
There was one long streth of road and I was riding shot gun in a truck so the whole view was in front of me. Wallahul cadiim I thought I entered a new and luscious planet or something a new dream land. The sad thing is that land in the hundreds and hundreds of acres are owned by wealthy whites who shafted it during Apartheid and they still legally own it. So pristine and so nice but you won't see a single person because it is private property.

No wonder the Afrikaans became Africa's first White tribe after seeing that land, they couldn't let it go!! I am convinced apartheid happened because these guys were prepared to go it all to continue controlling the Cape.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:53 pm

Murax,

I am going to quote Ian Smith, someone Voltage would admire:
I would say colonialism is a wonderful thing. It spread civilization to Africa. Before it they had no written language, no wheel as we know it, no schools, no hospitals, not even normal clothing. Ian Smith
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Salisbury, Rhodesia Under Ian Smith:

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:57 pm

Harare (Ex-Salisbury) after Mugabe:

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Voltage » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:57 pm

Lol @ Abdulwahab. There is a big difference between the system and the peoples. I want a system that advances economically and politically and it just so happens the post-enlightenment system put in place in Europe and then spread to the colonies is that system. Look at China, completely following that economic systen has led them to become the second biggest economy in the world. Look at Japan, adopting and mastering that system has led them to be the second biggest economy in the world prior to Japan and now 3rd, far ahead Europe where it was cultivated. Africans can do the same, after all the Europeans themselves borrowed it and tweaked it from the Arabs, Indians, and the civilizations before them.

Human interaction has always been borrowing from each other and making better. Africa needs to borrow the set of ideas that are working just as the Asians did from the Euros and the Euros did from the Muslims and others before them. There is no shame in this.

It is not about Europeans, or Ian Smith but the system.
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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Voltage » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:58 pm

Zimbabwe still looks like nice. Stop misrepresenting.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Murax » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:00 pm

Murax,

I am going to quote Ian Smith, someone Voltage would admire:
I would say colonialism is a wonderful thing. It spread civilization to Africa. Before it they had no written language, no wheel as we know it, no schools, no hospitals, not even normal clothing. Ian Smith
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:lol: :lol:


Laakin A/Wahab objectively speaking have Africans showed they can build anything? How many times were they given an oppritunity only to make a fool of themselves. If We were to look at things objectively We would see He is not far off

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby abdalla11 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:01 pm

Arabs must be treating you bad, walle arabs are weird

What the fuck????

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Arabs are not normal man :lol: :lol:

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Cinque Mtume » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:04 pm

Cinque,

Would Ivory Coast be at the same level if it was run by Ivorians?
No. Which goes to show how the Western world doesn't have to be present en force in Africa to dominate it in eternity. Just look at Burkina Faso, a country that took a path starkly different from that of Cote D'Ivoire's, yet now have acknowledged the truth and are busy privatizing everything they have nationalized and then some. And getting loans and allowing foreign invesment to take over their economy, because they have no other choice if they want to move 'forward'. And the West is saying to Burkina: Atta boy!


Either serve the West for a peanut or turn your back on them and starve is their message. A message Voltage is trying to spread amongst the proud Somali people for a banana.
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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:04 pm

Voltage,

You will enjoy this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3644 ... right.html



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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Voltage » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:06 pm

I knew about Ian Smith before you could read. Joke is getting lame.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby Cinque Mtume » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:09 pm

I knew about Ian Smith before you could read. Joke is getting lame.

My man Voltage, take it easy man. We're just pulling your leg.

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Re: Countries I Wanna Visit In My Lifetime!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:10 pm

Murax,

I am going to quote Ian Smith, someone Voltage would admire:
I would say colonialism is a wonderful thing. It spread civilization to Africa. Before it they had no written language, no wheel as we know it, no schools, no hospitals, not even normal clothing. Ian Smith
]

:lol: :lol:


Laakin A/Wahab objectively speaking have Africans showed they can build anything? How many times were they given an oppritunity only to make a fool of themselves. If We were to look at things objectively We would see He is not far off

Murax,

They can build if given the right conditions and good leaders. Look at Botswana, the most stable and well run black nation in the world. They decided early on to get along or face colonisation under South AFrican rule.

Unfortunately, as long as we chose Neanderthals to lead our nations and don't accept democracy, we won't get anywhere.

I am for the Recolonization of Somalia by the UN. The President should be the Latin American, O'Campo, ICC head and Vice President Kofi Annan.

After 20 years, and when literacy is at 95%, every Somali has food, shelter, clothing, health then we should become independent.


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