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Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:33 am
by ModerateMuslim
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:36 am
by Twisted_Logic
Where do you get this from? There is a difference between Reverse Engineering and Transfer of Technology. When Pakistan buys a big ticket item, it usually asks for a transfer of technology so that it can manufacture these technologies in its own country. Pakistan is better than China when it comes to Cruise Missiles and Nuclear Technology. Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology. North Korea is like years behind Pakistan.
And NO ONE can compete with the US. Not at least in the next 2-3 decades. America still shits on the world when it comes to technology.
Pakistan's leap in missile technology is largerly due to reverse engineering. They learned all they know on their own by dismantling the technology they bought and reverse engineer it. No country would give Pakistan transfer of technology rights. A good exmaple of stealing technology would be the Tomahawk cruise missile you posted, the red cruise missile. Some military analysts allege that when the US fired those cruise missiles in Taliban territory in 1998, One of them fell into the hands of Pakistani Scientists. The result was Tomahawk Cruise Missile made by pakistan and named BABAR.
Why is it beyond your imagination that Pakistan is capable to produce world class missiles?
The only missile that Pakistan ever reverse engineered is the Ghauri Missile which was done so by the crook Dr A Q Khan.
The Shaheen Series made by the NDC is the most effective and one of the world's most accurate Ballistic Missiles. It is a total indigenous effort.
The idea that Pakistan engineered the Babur Cruise Missile is simply a product of urban myth. One the Cruise Missile crash, they have a self-destruction mechanism in place so that in the event of a crash the critical technologies explode on their own. It took Pakistan 16 years to work on the Babur Cruise Missile.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:36 am
by ModerateMuslim
the problem with the clown, fact_twister, isn't that he's a jahil about facts - rather, its worse: he's emotionally invested in them and therefore leads to his twisting and distorting of them for them to be emotionally acceptable to him...
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:39 am
by Twisted_Logic
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Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:39 am
by Diyeeshaha_Tolka
why not use this military power to crush talibaanka,,
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:43 am
by Twisted_Logic
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:45 am
by Twisted_Logic
why not use this military power to crush talibaanka,,
They are crushing them.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:03 am
by ModerateMuslim
why not use this military power to crush talibaanka,,
cuz its really useless in the face of the ability of ttp to quickly disperse and regroup. plus the fact that the napak army is full of cowardly surrender monkeys.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:03 am
by *Nobleman*
TL,
Attaturk was a mild man. We need someone like the late great Hafez Al-Assad (Xafidullah)
No, man. Atta Turk is my inspiration in life.
Religious people should be weakened to the point that they are not even a threat to their grandmothers. His awesomeness Atta Turk saw the bigotry of religious people and the devastation they can inflict almost a century before they were a threat.
What do you mean by this?
Some of the greatest advancements in technology and science came under the Khalifah. So your impression that religion hinders technological advancement is incorrect.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:09 am
by Twisted_Logic
TL,
Attaturk was a mild man. We need someone like the late great Hafez Al-Assad (Xafidullah)
No, man. Atta Turk is my inspiration in life.
Religious people should be weakened to the point that they are not even a threat to their grandmothers. His awesomeness Atta Turk saw the bigotry of religious people and the devastation they can inflict almost a century before they were a threat.
What do you mean by this?
Some of the greatest advancements in technology and science came under the Khalifah. So your impression that religion hinders technological advancement is incorrect.
When Muslims made advances in Science and Technology, it was under moderate Muslims, not religious fanatics like the Taliban.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:14 am
by bareento
Hi,
Pakistani Army is mostly trained to fight conventional war against conventional army, ie second world war style tank battles in Punjabi plains against India...
They r probably handicapped by the fact that they were not trained to fight a guerilla war in the desert...
Indians has the same problem fighting the Neo Naxalites guerilla in in rice fields
B.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:21 am
by ModerateMuslim
Hi,
Pakistani Army is mostly trained to fight conventional war against conventional army...
but it really sucks at it though (case in point: india)....
napak army - a failure all around

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:22 am
by Twisted_Logic
Hi,
Pakistani Army is mostly trained to fight conventional war against conventional army, ie second world war style tank battles in Punjabi plains against India...
They r probably handicapped by the fact that they were not trained to fight a guerilla war in the desert...
Indians has the same problem fighting the Neo Naxalites guerilla in in rice fields
B.
Good points. No Army in the World is trained to fight guerrilla wars. They are trained to fight conventional wars, but how fast Pakistan has been able to make the transition is amazing.
I think the Frontier Corps and the Rangers should be beefed up considerably and turned into a multi-role COIN force. It is encouraging that the Americans are investing Billions of Dollars doing precisely this. This will free up the Pak Army and help them focus on what they were created for.
Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:23 am
by Twisted_Logic
Hi,
Pakistani Army is mostly trained to fight conventional war against conventional army...
but it really sucks at it though (case in point: india)....
napak army - a failure all around

What is your definition of failure?

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:27 am
by ModerateMuslim
Hi,
Pakistani Army is mostly trained to fight conventional war against conventional army...
but it really sucks at it though (case in point: india)....
napak army - a failure all around

What is your definition of failure?

duh. the napak army of course
