SomaliNet Forums

Actually He wasn't happy with His time there, and infact refused any sort of Government job afterwards even, thats how extreme He was. He was a Somali kid, who was having a lot of problems at home at around 17-18 and just left as a reaction. He came back, finished University, prays and wuu toobad keenay, marka Ilahay is ghaafir, so give people the benefit of the doubt.

In that case may allah SW except both his and our repentance.

By the way murax,dont forget the so called sunni awakening were paid millinos of dollars to change their stance on the war.If you ask me nothing is more shameful than to put up a fight only to be prastituted by the enemy.

To be honest with You, looking at things from a macquul, reasonable point of view, its better for them to temporairly do what they have to do and at least be able to live in Your Country, Your home rather then becoming refugees scattered all over the world and having Your Women prostitute for a living and the Men beg on the streets. No offence but theres a lot of people like You who talk like this and My question is When they were gonna become refugees adiga ma marti gelin lahayd? Aduunka nobody gives a crap about nobody. Diinta waxay leedahay if theres something bad remove it, but if the result is going to be something even more bad then leave it the way it is.

THE IRONY

Wallahi u are fools, do you think the awakening councils are "fed up sunnis" abti its the mujahideen themselves they have made this group and now have an unlimited supply of weapons and cash as well as intelligence...wait until the shia's kafirs cross that line

and murax stop with the inferiority complex we just havent had a government for 20+ years if we did we might have been something today

GaajoUnit,

In even looking at it Your way, at least they are diciplined mooryaan, who can take a go'aan and are not terrorizing the population. In Somalia no matter how much money You give a militia they are still gonna rape, plunder, loot and terrorize.

Diinta waxay leedahay if theres something bad remove it, but if the result is going to be something even more bad then leave it the way it is.

sxb lets not even go down that road,you of all people know where the diin stands on such out right kafir crusade.Whats the worst that we are waiting for?invading your land and completely humiliating you isn't enough to make you want to fight back?

Can you possibly tell me what could be worst than this..

Capacity building is needed in Somalia. All efforts to revitalize public institutions are being sabotaged as we speak. Somalia can't function without a proper education and health systems. Iraq is a mess that I wouldn't waste my time on. They have a chance to rebuild their country because of the resources and manpower they have. After all Saddam was still in power 7 years ago. As for Somalia, it is a big mess that would require small steps to achieve our goals. That day will come.

Murax,

In other words, any group of people standing up, calling up a few friends whom they trust, who in return look up and follow their lead. Slowly build up a bigger and bigger Ciidan. Take over a City at a time, winning the hearts and minds of the people along the way By then have enough people with him by the time he and his crew reaches Xamar and do a full blown take over? Before taking on this task, though, consult with the foreign governments, most notably that of the US, to get sufficient amount of weaponry, or money for bribes? Once in Xamar take on this massive campaign of securing the city limits, and restoring force brutally. Whipping up the population in shape, building bridges, and houses on their backs like they are some sorta Hebrew slaves. Once the rest of the country sees that their Capital once again is safe, everything else will fall into place? Not far fetched, or far from the near future at all.

Seriously tho, even if that day were to come, problem with Somalia today is that we lack not the will but proper tools to do such endeavors. It can temporarily be done minimally, one step at a time, though out a period of a longer time, but even if this was feasible I'd most certainly predict it having some powerful agents backing militarily.

GaajoUnit,

In even looking at it Your way, at least they are diciplined mooryaan, who can take a go'aan and are not terrorizing the population. In Somalia no matter how much money You give a militia they are still gonna rape, plunder, loot and terrorize.

The awakening councils have their fare share of rapists and bandits. In any case, even if they are slightly little more disciplined, then you can't really compare it with Somalia as SOmalia has had twenty years of anarchy. Secondly, since you persist to use this simpleton analogy- what about places like Hargeysa and Bosaso? What do they tell us about the Somali psyche? See, humans are people of the environment, if violence and anarchy becomes a norm, young men in that area will frequently use it. In the places, where there is law and order, violence is minimal because there is a deterrent. Southern Somalia is focked up not because of the pysche of the people or because SOmalia are monkeys. I think it is mainly due to the failure of politicians there to set up a peace intiative after the collapse of the somali gov and the civil war. Somaliland/Puntland have relative peace because the elders, politicians and rebel leaders used their position of authority to agree to a system of governance. Southern SOmalis were denied this chance by their politicians who couldn't agree to share power.

Murax you are one of many people in here who have stooped to a level of self hating, to the point that you guys dissociate yourself from anything somali. I'll give you a piece of advice which is to sort out your priorities. If you don't have hope for your people then who will.
Btw what possesed your friend in joining the marines, where will obviously shed muslim blood.

any one and every one is better than somalis.

i know people who want to iraq to make a living and they got paid weel by the governmnet of iraq.
i was wondering why a somali who has a university degree would work in iraq, the war zone!!

i guess now i know why. becasue any place better than that garabage place called somalia.

any one and every one is better than somalis.

i know people who want to iraq to make a living and they got paid weel by the governmnet of iraq.
i was wondering why a somali who has a university degree would work in iraq, the war zone!!

i guess now i know why. becasue any place better than that garabage place called somalia.

Not somalia, but most of somalis .

i meant somalia abti .lol

i meant somalia abti .lol

I know, but the way you said it..lol

I also meant the land has no fault, its the people who are like that.
Take 1 million chinese or even Iraqis to Somalia and they will make it like heaven on earth. And what did skinnies do? you know the answer.

i dont know wallah.
becaause i know somalis as individuals can do good for them selves.

mishkilada, ayaga islama shaqeyn karan. mid walba kan kalo tohmaya.

he joined the Marines and fought in Iraq? ma Somali baa?

he joined the Marines and fought in Iraq? ma Somali baa?

Yep but he made repetence from that sin.

Too many factors involved to make such a comparision between somalia and Iraq. Laakin to be honest Iraqis are def more patriotic.