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Thanks Gurey, James dahl and few others always manage keep what its otherwise mundane and half-brained faqash forum somewhat educational.The article is quite accurate...
you would be naive to assume that there is less hommosexualy in muslim countries than the west.
This is sitiuational homosexuality like prison, out of all these prison inmates fokin each other only a small percentage really are gay
the rest revert to normal heterosexual relation as soon as they are released.
Its the same here in this case, for the pushtuns and Saudis.
there is a small difference however, the Saudis do not have a homosexual culture, their case is purley due to the situations created
and the prevaling sexualization of sattelite television and the internet.
The afghanis and the pushtuns in particular have an ancient homosexual culture, they have always been a source of ghulamiyat poems
from the 13th century onwards. The have maintained the ancient dorian greek practice of giving away young boys to older men for education and ofcourse sexual relations. This probably comes from the period of greek states after alexanders empire and the daidochi and before the rise of mayura empire.
The extreme practice of sexual segregation along with sattelite televison and the internet creates a highly sexualy charged atomesphere that will lead to this situation.
the solution is not free mixing of sexes like the west that creates overall immorality, nor is it extreme segregation like saudia that creates sexual fiends. The solution is moderation the natural mixing of sexes ,
the encouragement and easing of early marriage.
This is the only thing that will work.
for those who think that saudia's practice is perfect and advocate it, please go to saudia.
go around and look, it it not that deeply hidden, just ask around and pretend to be interested in gay sex.
you will discover nearly everyone around you is doing it.
i wouldnt be surprised if you entire office block is into it.
just keeps your eyes open and dont be naive..
Thanks Gurey, James dahl and few others always manage keep what its otherwise mundane and half-brained faqash forum somewhat educational.The article is quite accurate...
you would be naive to assume that there is less hommosexualy in muslim countries than the west.
This is sitiuational homosexuality like prison, out of all these prison inmates fokin each other only a small percentage really are gay
the rest revert to normal heterosexual relation as soon as they are released.
Its the same here in this case, for the pushtuns and Saudis.
there is a small difference however, the Saudis do not have a homosexual culture, their case is purley due to the situations created
and the prevaling sexualization of sattelite television and the internet.
The afghanis and the pushtuns in particular have an ancient homosexual culture, they have always been a source of ghulamiyat poems
from the 13th century onwards. The have maintained the ancient dorian greek practice of giving away young boys to older men for education and ofcourse sexual relations. This probably comes from the period of greek states after alexanders empire and the daidochi and before the rise of mayura empire.
The extreme practice of sexual segregation along with sattelite televison and the internet creates a highly sexualy charged atomesphere that will lead to this situation.
the solution is not free mixing of sexes like the west that creates overall immorality, nor is it extreme segregation like saudia that creates sexual fiends. The solution is moderation the natural mixing of sexes ,
the encouragement and easing of early marriage.
This is the only thing that will work.
for those who think that saudia's practice is perfect and advocate it, please go to saudia.
go around and look, it it not that deeply hidden, just ask around and pretend to be interested in gay sex.
you will discover nearly everyone around you is doing it.
i wouldnt be surprised if you entire office block is into it.
just keeps your eyes open and dont be naive..
I can't agree or disagree with you when all you do is assert something and expect us to believe it without an iota of evidence. Hence why I gave you the example of the covered women. You say it was not found in Hijaz or Najd but you never tell us how you knew that fact. You say it spread because of segregation but you don't explain what took place before segregation (if any) and at what point did men and women stop mixing freely. It is a bunch of flowery drivel, my friend.Paddington.. if you disagree with my theory
please explain why..
this khanis culture did not exist in the najd and hejaz just parts of yemen.
it spread for many reasons, one of them is the extreme practise of sexual segregation.
this phenomena has been in afghanistan for centuries and its pre-islamic khaniss practices are well documented.
you can search for them yourself.
historically its also in parts of Iran, Turkey and Albania.
what arent you buying?Do Saudis have gays? Yes they do. I saw them with my own eyes. Does the Arab world have gays? Yes they do. Do Afghanis have gays? Of course. Is one form of homosexuality 'traditional' and the other 'situational'? Nope. Humbug. I am not convinced.
thats just an attempt to whitewash these poems..By the way, if you argue about Afghani poetry you must also realise that ARAB poetry has always (mostly) been done in a masculine way (i.e. when a man sings about the woman he loves he would refer to her as 'he' so that he does not get her in trouble with her family or soils her reputation. But then again, he could have been talking about a man all along).
Its a vital read for everyone. Of course,the MSM ,AlJazeera,BBC et al would never reveal this info.In this atmosphere the purposeful stride of Captain Ernst Roehm seemed out of place. But Roehm was accustomed to being different. A homosexual with a taste for boys, Roehm was part of a growing subculture in Germany which fancied itself a superior form of German manhood. A large, heavy man, Roehm had been a professional soldier since 1906, and, after the war, had temporarily lent his talents to a socialist terror organization called the Iron Fist. On this night Roehm was on his way to meet some associates who had formed a much more powerful socialist organization.
At the door of the Bratwurstgloeckl, a tavern frequented by homosexual roughnecks and bully-boys, Roehm turned in and joined the handful of sexual deviants and occultists who were celebrating the success of a new campaign of terror. Their organization, once known as the German Worker’s Party, was now called the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, The National Socialist German Worker’s Party — the Nazis.
Yes, the Nazis met in a “gay” bar.
Hello again.what arent you buying?Do Saudis have gays? Yes they do. I saw them with my own eyes. Does the Arab world have gays? Yes they do. Do Afghanis have gays? Of course. Is one form of homosexuality 'traditional' and the other 'situational'? Nope. Humbug. I am not convinced.
the traditional practices of certain pushtoon tribes are well documented. this PBS documentery did not make it up.
That these traditional practices are identical to ancient greek practices and that that part of the world was part of greek civilization for hundreds of years is no coincidense.
now since these traditions are absent from the hejaz and the nejd and du to the unusually high levels of homosexuality among saudis, it might be possible that this has a link to the unusually strict segregation of the sex's that they practice.
do you have any other explanation for saudis behaviour i would be interested.
i was not talking about segregation, but the practice of extreme segregation.I am still stuck on the segregation point in Hejaz and Najd. Like I asked you earlier, was there ever a point when they did not have segregation? If such a time existed and you can historically prove it, I suppose we might begin to entertain the idea of situational homosexuality or that Saudis did not have a culture of homosexuality. If segregation was always there then, by your logic at least, homosexuality must have always been there too! This would mean that there really is no difference between Afghani and Saudi traditions of homosexuality, wouldn’t you agree?
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