Reading the Bible

[grandpakhalif]

Doesn’t make sense. Rephrase.

I meant why sister

[kaasje7]

not exactly Ehlul Kittab means people of the book, which book(s)? The books Allah sent to Prophet Musa as Prophet Isa as? are those books still here today? Do they use these book? Answer is no, which means there are no ‘people of the book left’ because what they have today isn’t the actual books of Isa and Musa, what they call Christianity and Judaism arent the original religions of Musa and Isa.

Ruling on eating meat that is sold in stores in non-Muslim countries
What is the ruling on eating the meat that is sold in stores in non-Muslim countries? Is it halaal or haraam?.


Praise be to Allaah.

The scholars of Islam are unanimously agreed that meat slaughtered by mushrikeen, those who worship idols and deny other religions, and all other kinds of kaafirs who are not Jews, Christians or Magians, is haraam. And they are unanimously agreed that meat slaughtered by the People of the Book, Jews and Christians, is permissible. They differed concerning meat slaughtered by Magians, who are fire worshippers. Therefore the four Imams and the majority of scholars are of the view that it is haraam, because they classify the Magians with idol worshippers and other types of kaafirs, other than the People of the Book. Some of the scholars are of the view that meat slaughtered by them (Magians) is permissible because they classify them with the People of the Book, but this is a very weak view; in fact it is invalid. The correct view is that of the majority of scholars, which is that meat slaughtered by the Magians is like meat slaughtered by any other mushrikeen, because they are like them in everything except the jizyah. Rather the Magians were likened to the People of the Book only with regard to taking jizyah from them. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah says in His Holy Book (interpretation of the meaning):

“Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them”

[al-Maa’idah 5:5].

So Allah clearly stated that the food of the People of the Book is permissible for us, and their food means meat slaughtered by them, as stated by Ibn ‘Abbaas and other scholars. So what is implied by this verse is that the food of kaafirs other than the People of the Book is haraam for us. This is the view of all scholars except what is known of the odd and weak difference concerning meat slaughtered by the Magians.

Once this is understood, the meat that is sold in stores in non-Muslim countries, if it is known that it was slaughtered by People of the Book, then it is permissible for Muslims, provided it is not known to have been slaughtered in a manner different from that which is prescribed in sharee’ah. So the basic principle is that it is permissible according to the text of the Qur'aan, and we should not turn away from that except if something is proven which implies that it is haraam.

But if the meat is slaughtered by any other kaafirs, then it is haraam for the Muslims and it is not permissible for them to eat it, according to the text and according to scholarly consensus, and it is not sufficient to mention the name of Allah over it when washing it or eating it.

With regard to what some quote to prove their point, that report was narrated concerning some Muslim people who were new in Islam, and some of the Sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them) asked the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) about that. They said: O Messenger of Allah, some people who are new in Islam bring meat to us, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allah over it or not. This was narrated by al-Bukhaari from the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her). Thus it is clear that there is no proof for the one who buys meat that comes to the stores and is slaughtered by kaafirs other than the People of the Book and says the name of Allah over it, because the hadeeth narrated from ‘Aa’ishah speaks about Muslims, not kaafirs. So there is no proof, because the Muslim is to be regarded as sound and righteous so long as nothing is known from him to the contrary. It may be that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) told those who asked him to say the name of Allah when eating the meat so as to be on the safe side and in order to counter the whispers of the Shaytaan, not because that would make halaal the meat slaughtered by them which was haraam. And Allah knows best.

But if the Muslim is in those non-Muslim countries and it is difficult for him to obtain meat that is slaughtered in the proper shar’i manner, and he is fed up of eating chicken and the like, this does not justify him eating haraam meat and it does not mean he comes under the heading of one who is compelled or forced, according to the consensus of the Muslims. It is essential to pay attention to this matter and warn against carelessness for which there is no reason. This is what seems to me to be the case with regard to this matter which has become widespread. I ask Allah to help the Muslims to do that which is in their best religious and worldly interests and to instil fear of Him and respect for His sacred limits in their hearts and to help them avoid that which goes against His laws.



Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 23/13.

[abdalla11]

okay thanks guys, but i was more in line with Yungnfresh, in that i wanted evidence, not what your personal feelings are, and only abdalla has posted any evidence thus far

Hence the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) got angry when he saw a book in the hand of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allah be pleased with him) that he had taken from some of the People of the Book. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Are you in doubt of it, O son of al-Khattaab? By the One in Whose hand is my soul, I have brought to you that which is white and pure, and by the One in Whose hand is my soul, if Moosa (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) were alive, he could do nothing but follow me.” Narrated by Imam Ahmad (14736); classed as hasan by al-Albaani in al-Irwa’ (6/34).

Now here is my question, what is hasan? The hadith is classed as hasan, by sheik Albaani, so what does that mean

That means it is a good and authentic hadeeth. the highest level of ahadeeth is Saxiix which means it is 100% authentic, the isnaad is authentic and the mawduuc ( the text of the hadeeth) is also authentic, then there is hassan the mawduuc is authentic but the isnaad has shortcomings, the reporters of that hadeeth are not that solid compared to the reporters of the saxiix ahadeeth. The weak ahadeeth are not trusted, maybe the text is good but the isnaad is broken and therefore rejected and there is a hadeeth mawduuci which is the worst because that is a invented hadeeth i.e a lie about the prophet.

[Dhaga Bacayl]

A lot of Islamic scholars study it so they can provide well educated responds for those who questions about our religion. In that regard, I don't think it's haram.

[zingii]

I read in another thread, in a post by Murux that reading the Bible, Torah, or any other religions text is haraam. With respect to Murux he did mention a hadith but did not really go into at all.

So is reading other religions texts haraam in Islam?

I thought there was ONE RELIGION.

[Shirib]

I read in another thread, in a post by Murux that reading the Bible, Torah, or any other religions text is haraam. With respect to Murux he did mention a hadith but did not really go into at all.

So is reading other religions texts haraam in Islam?

I thought there was ONE RELIGION.

U must be living on a different world

[FHA1223]

why would it be when Ahmed Deedat (AUN) and his students studied comparative religion for the purposes of da'wah?

[zingii]

There is ONE TRUE religion others are just some beliefs.

[ciyaal_warta]

i think is not haram as long as ur purpose is to know wat otherz blve sxb

i have read the bible and i have it in ma shelf bro

[OliveOil]

Brother Shirib...its funny how these people are talking about eating meat or marrying women from non-ahlu kitaabs when u asked a more serious question

Of course, we can eat meat and guys can marry Christian and/or Jewish women...and not women from other religions (aka idol worshipers and such). Someone has mentioned that the people of the book have "changed" their books so many times and therefore are not considered the "people of the book" anymore. Marka......isn't our God and their God the same? Didn't Allah first revealed himself to the earlier prophets i.e. Cise, Ibrahim, Cise, etc? Isn't Islam the "perfection" of the religions first revealed to Ibrahim and then Ciisaa?? Muslims therefore accept the teachings of these two religions regardless of their new/old testament and whatnot!!!


As for your question Shirib...yes Muslims can read the bible. You don't need a verse from the Qur'an or the Hadeeth to proof this to you because its common sense walaal. Once your imaan is full and know a lot about Islam, then you can continue questing more knowledge about other religions. Simply this is done to stop the confusion that you might feel....comprehendo? But if an authentic hadeeth will satisfy you then InshAllah I will send u one in ur PM

[zingii]

Brother Shirib...its funny how these people are talking about eating meat or marrying women from non-ahlu kitaabs when u asked a more serious question

Of course, we can eat meat and guys can marry Christian and/or Jewish women...and not women from other religions (aka idol worshipers and such). Someone has mentioned that the people of the book have "changed" their books so many times and therefore are not considered the "people of the book" anymore. Marka......isn't our God and their God the same? Didn't Allah first revealed himself to the earlier prophets i.e. Cise, Ibrahim, Cise, etc? Isn't Islam the "perfection" of the religions first revealed to Ibrahim and then Ciisaa?? Muslims therefore accept the teachings of these two religions regardless of their new/old testament and whatnot!!!


As for your question Shirib...yes Muslims can read the bible. You don't need a verse from the Qur'an or the Hadeeth to proof this to you because its common sense walaal. Once your imaan is full and know a lot about Islam, then you can continue questing more knowledge about other religions. Simply this is done to stop the confusion that you might feel....comprehendo? But if an authentic hadeeth will satisfy you then InshAllah I will send u one in ur PM

Shukaansi is in the AIR.