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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby SahanGalbeed » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:41 pm

I don't really support this , but I am not quite there yet as to call for their "extermination", "banning "

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:08 pm

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So, the judgment of Allah is similar to the systematic subjugation of a society to Extrimist perverted laws delivered via the hands of criminals,ex-warlords disguised as sheiks?[/quote]

What i am failing to get across to you is this.

- Allah(swt) is the absolute Judge.
- Allah(swt) grants free will so human kind can choose to what degree they obey.
- We have been notified the umma will split into 73 versions.

If Allah(swt) makes all 73 versions a possibility Who appointed Al-Shabaab to destroy the other 72 Versions?

- What gives Al-shabaab the supreme authority to class other muslims as Kaffirs?
- Do you condone using islam as a political tool?

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby manarab » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:18 pm

What i am failing to get across to you is this.

- Allah(swt) is the absolute Judge.
- Allah(swt) grants free will so human kind can choose to what degree they obey.
- We have been notified the umma will split into 73 versions.

If Allah(swt) makes all 73 versions a possibility Who appointed Al-Shabaab to destroy the other 72 Versions?

- What gives Al-shabaab the supreme authority to class other muslims as Kaffirs?
- Do you condone using islam as a political tool?
You have equated Al-Shabaab's judgment to Allah's judgment. You've essentially alleged they are doing Allah's work. You have strongly implied a human can have the power of Allah. This is what you wrote:
May Allah protect them from facists who wish to Judge where only Allah(swt) has exclusive right of judgement.

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby SahanGalbeed » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:25 pm

Use your brain manarab , one of the reason I call you guys people of the Notebook is because you have given up on using your brain , trying to understand what the other person means , or simply ask questions when you fail to understand . You immediately jump to a conclusion that is only yours :lol: while intentionally misreading what's in front of you . It is truely the uprising of the simpletons :lol:

How can you satisfy people who do not understand anything ,or feign not to get it while rejecting all authority but theirs ?
You cannot , you destroy them !
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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:30 pm

[/quote]May Allah protect them from facists who wish to Judge where only Allah(swt) has exclusive right of judgement.[quote]

I can see your fixation on the statement but your interpretation is distorted when you isolate the statement and take it out of the context it was intended for.

Do you disagree that since there will be 73 Versions of Islam only Allah(swt) will have exclusive Right of Judgement on the subject???

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby manarab » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:55 pm

Do you disagree that since there will be 73 Versions of Islam only Allah(swt) will have exclusive Right of Judgement on the subject???
Define what you mean by Allah's exclusive Right of Judgment.

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:03 pm

an exclusive right is a de facto, non-tangible prerogative existing in law (that is, the power or, in a wider sense, right) to perform an action or acquire a benefit and to permit or deny others the right to perform the same action or to acquire the same benefit. Which is a "prerogative" is in effect an exclusive right, the term is restricted for use for official state or sovereign (i.e., constitutional) powers. Exclusive rights are a form of monopoly. [Wiki].

Allah(swt) has Exclusive right as judge on the islamic practices of any man.

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby manarab » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:28 pm

an exclusive right is a de facto, non-tangible prerogative existing in law (that is, the power or, in a wider sense, right) to perform an action or acquire a benefit and to permit or deny others the right to perform the same action or to acquire the same benefit. Which is a "prerogative" is in effect an exclusive right, the term is restricted for use for official state or sovereign (i.e., constitutional) powers. Exclusive rights are a form of monopoly. [Wiki].

Allah(swt) has Exclusive right as judge on the islamic practices of any man.
You've copy/pasted from a dic/wiki the definition of exclusive right. The whole time, you were talking about something you didn't know its definition. You wrote:

"Allah(swt) has Exclusive right as judge on the islamic practices of any man."

You weren't asked about "the islamic practices of any man" and who has exclusive right over them. You were asked:

"Define what you mean by Allah's exclusive Right of Judgment."

If you can't define it, you can copy/paste its definition from an Islamic/Muslim website.

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby SahanGalbeed » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:31 pm

Okay manarab , tell us bro how the definition in a muslim website would be different .
Don't go notebook on us again :lol: , inoo kala sheeg , waan daawanaya shekaada idin dhex taala ilayn e , kalmad inaad isku haysataan iyo wax ka weyn , bal inoo kala fasir . Ina yara dul qaado :lol:

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby manarab » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:39 pm

Sahan, I'm an avid reader, and have been reading for decades. Reading Islamic subjects, I've never comes across an Islamic topic in which its title or content includes "Allah's exclusive Right of Judgment." So, maybe you can help.

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby SahanGalbeed » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:41 pm

War anigu waxaad isku haysataan ban raba inaan fahmo :lol: , that's it !

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby manarab » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:47 pm

^Nabadeey!

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:55 pm

You can read over all our exchanges on this tread and anyone can agree i have kept it so simple any layman can understand all i have said and i happy to say all mistakes are mine alone.

Statement in question that ManArab is trying so hard to strategically dismantle :

''May Allah protect them from facists who wish to Judge where only Allah(swt) has exclusive right of judgement.''

- Wahabi believes he is worshiping Allah(swt) in the best way possible as a muslim.
- Sufi believes he is worshiping Allah(swt) in the best way possible as a muslim.

ManArab who apart from Allah(swt) has exclusive right to judge which of them is a better muslim?

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Mr. Yungnfresh » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:14 am

loooool @ the first video...Wallahi it looks like some kinda new ATL funky dance :lol:

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Re: Somali Suufis and Ahmediya

Postby Somali_Boqor » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:36 am

check out the chechen bidca.

old man is hardcore





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