hang them high from tower bridge!

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Assalamu Alaikum,

"It is amazing how you support the same media when they report stories that fit your reasoning. You are as brainwashed as those losers, and you are a human bomb waiting to explode. If you need a target please choose Kirribili House when Howard will host GWB, and not Australian civilians"

What stories did I support?

Peace Kamal,

"You call yourself Proud-Muslimah, but you use this gesture at the pain of the others"

When did I do that?

[Kamal35]

Proud: It's OK. Next time American airplanes will bomb Baghdad, let's have some doubts and blame to Israelis of bombings.

Let's say: It was Spanish Air Forces. If we have a terrorist attack, let say it was the jews, or something.

Ok
to that.

Sounds OK for you?

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Kamal, please don't try to change the subject...you accused me of doing something which I can NOT re-call so please either show me the thread where I used the " " emoticon towards the suffering/pain of innocent people or try to be a bit more TRUTHFUL in your posts next time!

Peace

[Aiman]

Accudu Billaahi Minna Sharri Shaytaani Rajiim

Bismillah,

I see some individials who are domed with a confusion by the western zionist media and believe everything they hear from, Subxaana Allah.

As far as I know those pictures were provided by the media proves nothing....lets face it they could being in a harry running to catch a bus or they were late somewhere.

What is with all hate for the Sheikhs and Imaams for? They did not cause the so called "terrorism;" the "terrorism" started from the axis of the states and countries who sponser the "terror" regimes that's where the "terrorism" started but not by Islam or Muslim or the Shekhs and Imaams. Think with the brain that God gave you unless you are an ignorant fool trying to be the Dabadhilif of the kuffar master and willing to be the next young puppets ready to serve the master like those puppets regimes Rofiyaaniin.

[Kamal35]

"Kamal, please don't try to change the subject...you accused me of doing something which I can NOT re-call so please either show me the thread where I used the " " emoticon towards the suffering/pain of innocent people or try to be a bit more TRUTHFUL in your posts next time!

Peace"


-------->Sister, you're been here day in day out talking about christians conspiracy against Islam, jews conspiracy against Islam, kuffirs conspiracy against Islam. You always use the word "Peace" at the same time you use the expression "Allah protects me of my enemies". One of your favourite words is "enemy". But you always end your post with "Peace". That sounds really hypocrite.

Who the hell in the West use the word "enemy" to describe muslims, jews or something? A muslim is not my enemy, an atheist is not my enemy. Nobody is not my enemy. But you see enemies everywhere. Anything is enemy of your beliefs.

And look: if you see that all mass media in the West are against Islam, why don't you do this: Arab people are really rich. They have money enough to build palaces, big cars, buy tons of bourbons and buy thousands of hot prostitutes (and I know this really good because I've seen it in Marbella). Why, then, Saudis don't buy a TV channel, or 1.000 TV channels and manipulate them? You say that jews do that. Why Saudis don't do the same thing? It's quite simple: you have a lot of money: you buy CNN and Fox or create a new TV channel to blame the Americans and the jews of everything.

Baby: if a muslim fanatic gets on on a train loaded with bombs and kills a lot of people you don't need to blame the media of telling lies or to blame the Government. It was this guy who did that. Instead saying: this guy is a bastard, you say: the media are telling us lies.

Most of times, you sound like these people who, after seeing a girl raped, they say: you deserved it, your skirt is so short. Or, "now, I can't believe he could do this to you, you're exagerating".

Most of times you sound like this. You turn white what is black and black what's white.

Peace

(as you see, it's not complicated to write the word peace)

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Peace,

You wrote:

"You always use the word "Peace" at the same time you use the expression "Allah protects me of my enemies". One of your favourite words is "enemy". But you always end your post with "Peace". That sounds really hypocrite"

What's wrong with asking God (Allah (SWT) to protect you from your enemies? Most of us might have someone that hates us and is trying to do anything they can to harm us. There are a lot of people who HATE Islam with passion and are trying to do anything they can to destroy it, look at how Muslims are being treated these days!

If someone was trying to harm you and your family wouldn't you ask God (that's if you believe in God) to protect both you and your family from that person? Would you not consider that person as an E.N.E.M.Y?

"Who the hell in the West use the word "enemy" to describe muslims"

There are a lot of people who consider Muslims or use the word "enemy" towards the Muslims!

"And look: if you see that all mass media in the West are against Islam, why don't you do this: Arab people are really rich. They have money enough to build palaces, big cars, buy tons of bourbons and buy thousands of hot prostitutes (and I know this really good because I've seen it in Marbella). Why, then, Saudis don't buy a TV channel, or 1.000 TV channels and manipulate them? You say that jews do that. Why Saudis don't do the same thing? It's quite simple: you have a lot of money: you buy CNN and Fox or create a new TV channel to blame the Americans and the jews of everything"

What makes you think they will do that when they actually support the western government and their "war on terrorism" thing?

"if a muslim fanatic gets on on a train loaded with bombs and kills a lot of people you don't need to blame the media of telling lies or to blame the Government. It was this guy who did that. Instead saying: this guy is a bastard, you say: the media are telling us lies"

Why should I refer to someone whom are just being accused without having any clear evidence as a "bastard"? What gives me (YOU included) the right to do that? Let me ask you something, you know that girl (Australian lady) that is being accused of smuggling drugs in Indonesia, what's the difference between these guys that are being accused of the bombings and her?

BTW, please do NOT refer to me as "baby"!

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Peace,

Kamal, since you happen to be online..mind answering my question?

Here it is again, Why should I refer to someone whom are just being accused without having any clear evidence as a "bastard"? What gives me (YOU included) the right to do that? Let me ask you something, you know that girl (Australian lady) that is being accused of smuggling drugs in Indonesia, what's the difference between these guys that are being accused of the bombings and her?

Looking forward to your reply

[Kamal35]

Proud: I don't know the story of the Australian lady, so I can't reply to your post.

About calling "bastard" to the bombers in London, yeah. I call them bastard, whatever they're fanatic muslim, CIA agents or Israeli agents. I'm not talking about the suspects the British police detained, but the people who really put the bombs. If future investigations prove than they were CIA agents, I will call them bastards too. But, unfortunately, it seems that the bombers were muslims. At least, as far as I know.

You have to remember that we had the same experience here in Spain, in Madrid. The conservative Government tried to lied to us saying that it was ETA, the terrorist group from the Basque Country, in order to win some elections. But it was not ETA.

We like it or not, we've got a new phenomenon here: the islamist terrorism. People who think that blowing themselves in a train and killing a lot of people is worthy to get the Paradise and the 72 virgins for dancing salsa. You can open your eyes at it or you can't close your eyes and think that it's not true, that is a Western mass media fabrication.

But believe me: after the Spanish attacks in Madrid, when muslim people acting as volunteers to help the Spanish Police, the police found the terrorists, surrounded them in a flat and we all could hear how they war singing "Allahu Akbar" and praying Al Quran seconds before they blew themselves up.

If they were Israeli or CIA agent, girl, they were just perfect as actors, because they gave their lives right there. In our Western mentality, death means the end of our lives. After the death, there's nothing. You have to be a really good good good CIA or Israeli agent to give your life for nothing. That's illogical.

After the Madrid experience we know that someone who's really brainwashed can do it. It's not us, Westerners, who say: "I love death and I hate life". But some fanatic muslims do say that: "I love death and I hate life". I don't mean that's the mainstream in Islam, because it would be an insult against Islam, and believe me, I have a lot of muslim friends.

But you must open your eyes: there are fanatic muslims out there in the same way that there are fanatic christians out there. Bush is a good example of a fanatic christian. But I never tried to justify Bush, to apologize him, to explain why he acts in that way because he's Westerner. In the opposite: I hate him. He's really harming and giving a bad reputation to our democratic system. Bush is a son of a bittch.

My question is, why don't you say the same thing of those fanatic muslims instead to justify them?

I hope a good reply is on the way.

Salam.

[Mochatanya]

Jahannam is also on the way for those who deserve it.

Do you ever stop with your sly insults amigo? Where is Hannah when her karbaash is needed?

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Peace,

"My question is, why don't you say the same thing of those fanatic muslims instead to justify them?"

1) I do not like swearing
2) God knows whether they were behind the bombings or not since they're only "suspects" and the police did NOT show any clear evidences/proofs (apart from pictures which do NOT prove anything) yet, and
3) I have already made it clear that I'm against the killings of innocent people

Concerning the Australian lady that is being accused of smuggling drugs into Indonesia..you can read about her here--> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=55840

Again, I will repeat my question...since now you know who I'm talking about, what's the difference between these guys who are being accused of something which ONLY God knows they did and her?

[Kamal35]

Proud: I have nothing against the drougs. It's a private issue. If you want to get hung on heroine, cocaine, alcohol, hashish, cigarettes or amphetamines, that's your problem, not mine. Personally, I don't like drougs, but sometimes I drink some beers in the weekend.

But you can't compare a case of droug traffiking with suicide bombers. A droug-addict is harming and killing himself. A suicide bomber is killing himself and a lot of innocent people. There's no comparison in both cases.

Believe me: whether the suspects of London are guilty or not, it will be proved someday. If they're innocent, our system will ask apologizes to them and will set them free. At the moment, it seems (it JUST seem, they're guilty: the guy arrested in Italy said that they just wanted to scare people, not to kill them, which seems to be a guilty declaration).

A lot of cases are a real mistake. I know personally Taysir Alouny, the Al Jazeera reporter who was detained and jailed by an order of judge Baltasar Garzón. He's on trial right now. I know he's innocent. He doesn't belong to Al Qaeda and his only crime was, as a journalist, to interview Osama bin Laden. Taysir lives in my city. I know his wife and his children and his friends, and I know he's innocent. I've been in acts to support him and ask for his freedom. After the trial, I know that he will be released free. Do investigators hate Taysir? I don't think so. Just that some coincidences put him in the wrong investigation line: the main one: CIA gave a word to the Spanish investigators that he was involved in something. But I don't believe or trust in the CIA.

Let's wait and see about the London bombers. But, believe me. Even with a lot of mistakes, Police don't walk blind. I have a great friend, and she's a muslim policewoman. She was the first one to tell me: "The guys are caught in London. Good job of British police". And she's muslim.

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Kamal, you are finally being a bit more realistic here

Yes, they could be guilty of the bombings, I'm not saying they can't be or justifying their actions..I'm just saying God knows whether they were the ones who were behind the bombings or not. Afterall, innocent till clearly proven guilty, right?

I'm not comparing a drug case to a bombing case, my point of bringing up that question is that the Australian lady is being accused of something she might have done or did not do which is the same case for these "supposedly" suicide bombers!

[biko]

[quote="Aiman"]Accudu Billaahi Minna Sharri Shaytaani Rajiim

Bismillah,

I see some individials who are domed with a confusion by the western zionist media and believe everything they hear from, Subxaana Allah.

As far as I know those pictures were provided by the media proves nothing....lets face it they could being in a harry running to catch a bus or they were late somewhere.

What is with all hate for the Sheikhs and Imaams for? They did not cause the so called "terrorism;" the "terrorism" started from the axis of the states and countries who sponser the "terror" regimes that's where the "terrorism" started but not by Islam or Muslim or the Shekhs and Imaams. Think with the brain that God gave you unless you are an ignorant fool trying to be the Dabadhilif of the kuffar master and willing to be the next young puppets ready to serve the master like those puppets regimes Rofiyaaniin.[/quote]
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lets not pay to much attention to words like 'beardos and wadaados'!

the whole reason behind this topic was the shocking realization that a skinny was among would be suicide bombers. now, we always see suicide bombing on tv, whether its iraq or palestine and on the 7/7 we witnessed the first suicide bombing in london.
maybe it was because the bombers were 3 pakistanies and a west indian, that i didnt think much of it; but on the 21 july, when they showed that skinni on tv, the whole thing felt to close to home.

maybe it was because he was somali that made me ask myself what makes a flight 13 do this. maybe if they said he was a pakistani, i wouldnt care as much.

at the end of the day, from all that has been going on, not to mention the chinese wisper media, at the time i made the conclusion that this guys were brainwashed and whether it was done in a prison or outside, my attack was directed at those that take advantage of young muslims.

i speak what i feel, and i chose what words to use! am more than happy to get it out of my chest and live it on this boards. people can read it and interpret it however they want.

[Kamal35]

Biko: good point, mate.

Proud Muslimah. Just answer this question. If you were in London after the J-21 bombings and Police show on TV your picture saying that you are a terrorist who put the bombs, what would you do: to hide or to go inmediately to the next Police Station saying: "Hey, I'm here, and you can interrogate me, but I DIDN'T put any bomb in anywhere!!!!!"? If you're innocent, why to hide? The best you can do is going inmediately to the Police and say that they're wrong. Or look for a lawyer and put a demmand agaisnt the Police for all the problems you have to face to.

Why these guys tried to hide?

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Peace Kamal,

Why were they hiding? God only knows, ever thought that maybe this could be a set out plan to degrade Islam? If it was a Jewish or a Christian who were behind that bombings do you think they would have said "a jewish fanatic or a christian fanatic do such-and-such"? Why is it that whenever a Muslim commits a crime, it's Islam that is mentioned?

And who knows, maybe they didn't know what to do or thought "what difference would it make if they show themselves up" because afterall, they will still be getting the same blame or would have still been accused of the same crime, right?

Even though I believe there is something quite fishy about this whole bombing thing, only time will tell and the truth will be out one day so lets be patient and wait instead of pointing fingers!