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Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:46 pm
by shaamboo
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قبيلة الدارود يصل نسبها الى مسلم بن عبدالله بن محمد بن عقيل بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه

http://www.alashraf.ws/vb/%BB%BA%B0-%C3 ... C7%E1.html

sxb one i can tell you this :

Hadarms are like soomalis they have a lot midgo.

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:19 am
by abdalla11
My bad...I did hear that they got paid to give fatwas for gaalo to occupy/put their fighter jets etc on Muslim soil...Im not very well versed in this type of Islamic discourse and have never claimed to be though. Thanks for the heads up, will do more research.
It´s was actually arabman who said that albaani and bin baaz were alshabaab like shaykhs and they are not. They opposed their ideology which is rebelling against the ruler of a country and many other things.

Albaani was against the invasion of USA however the shuyoukh of saudi allowed the americans to have a base there. Lakiin to say that they were paid is a slander without any evidence. A matter of fact the takfiris started the rumor that they are getting paid when the scholars opposed their plans to rebel against the king and called for unity and law and order after that they started to call them ´scholar for dollar´ marka culimada yaa loo gafin.
.Albaani said suicide-bombing was xalaal, nothing more need be said on the man.
Albaani allowed suicide operation during a war and only if that would benefit the muslim army. So he made two strict rules: must be during a war and it must benefit the army. He was against suicide bombiings against civilians. However he was a human who is sometimes correct in his fatwa and sometimes he errors. If a scholar/judge makes a judgement and he's right he receives two ajar(one for his effort and one for making the right judgement) and if he made the wrong judgement he receives 1 ajar (only for his effort). So just because he made an incorrect fatwa in your eyes doesn't mean you should write him of. He's niota bene the biggest scholar of the hadeeth in the past century.

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:53 am
by Arbmn
The following fatwa was issued by a famous mufti:
Prayers should not be offered in mosques in which there are graves. The graves should be dug up and the remains transferred to the public graveyards, with each set of remains placed in an individual grave as with all other graves.
Now, what kind of mufti would issue a fatwa that Al-Shabaab implemented to the letter? Clearly, an Al-Shabaab-like mufti. Do you know who is the famous mufti who issued that fatwa?
Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al Shaykh Ibn Baaz 10/246.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/21394/
Similarly, the late scholar al-Albani (AUN) issued many fatwas that make him an Al-Shabaab-like scholar. One issue I disagree with those mufti/scholar; rebelling against or removing from power a fasid ruler.

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:00 am
by Cumar-Labasuul
This guy was a religious scholar in Egypt and his great great grandfather is Abdirahman al Jabarti of Somalia.

Name: Abd al-Rahman al-Jabarti
Title: Al Jabarti
Birth: 1753
Death: 1825
Ethnicity: Somali
Region: Horn of Africa/North Africa
Main interests: Islamic philosophy, Islamic Jurisprudence
So Darood was born in the 18th century then that contradicts the lineages doesn't it :? :?

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:00 pm
by Navy9
So Darood was born in the 18th century then that contradicts the lineages doesn't it
No, the scholar Abdirahman Al Jabarti was born in the 18th century, his father was a scholar too called Hassan Al Jabarti who was himself a mathematician and a philosopher and they both are the great grandsons of Ismail Al Jabarti founder of the Jabart Kingdom OR came from Jabart and thus are refered as Jabarti!

Jabart was a region in the old Zeila Kingdom and al Jabarti is not a name rather a reference to where he came from like most of the scholars of the past such as Al Bukhari (hadith scholar), Al Farabi (a scholar), al-Khwarizmi (founder of algebra).


Interesting, right?

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:46 pm
by Murax
This Morrocon friend of Mine told Me about a famous Hadith scholar with the last name "Zeylaci". I asked Him what Zeylac was and He told Me the town He came from..Sounds interesting.

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:55 pm
by AwdalPrince
This Morrocon friend of Mine told Me about a famous Hadith scholar with the last name "Zeylaci". I asked Him what Zeylac was and He told Me the town He came from..Sounds interesting.
Yes there was an ancient Somali scholar who travelled to Morocco to teach those people the Deen, who was from zeilac

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:04 pm
by abdalla11
This Morrocon friend of Mine told Me about a famous Hadith scholar with the last name "Zeylaci". I asked Him what Zeylac was and He told Me the town He came from..Sounds interesting.
Yes there was an ancient Somali scholar who travelled to Morocco to teach those people the Deen, who was from zeilac
Probably majeerteen :?

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:05 pm
by djibsomali
This Morrocon friend of Mine told Me about a famous Hadith scholar with the last name "Zeylaci". I asked Him what Zeylac was and He told Me the town He came from..Sounds interesting.
Yes there was an ancient Somali scholar who travelled to Morocco to teach those people the Deen, who was from zeilac
Probably majeerteen :?
he did not said Garowe!

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:11 pm
by abdalla11
^ Zaylac is the Garowe of the North didn't you know that?

waliga ma maqal waxaan usocdaa garowaha waqooyi?

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:12 pm
by D-Runner
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قبيلة الدارود يصل نسبها الى مسلم بن عبدالله بن محمد بن عقيل بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه

http://www.alashraf.ws/vb/%BB%BA%B0-%C3 ... C7%E1.html

waryaa first the author is alive and is not written b4 250 yrs
second why is it saying he moved to a region of majeertenia does that mean majeerteen existed b4 the darod himself ? :o
Interesting.

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:13 pm
by djibsomali
^ Zaylac is the Garowe of the North didn't you know that?

waliga ma maqal waxaan usocdaa garowaha waqooyi?
lol

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:23 pm
by D-Runner
djibsomali,

Zeylac is where Harti wed his first wife Dahabo Majerteyn (qabiilka ciise baa dhalay) marka halkee baa noogu riixaysa Garowe, Zeylac habarti Majerteyn dhashaay baa ka soo jeeda adeer :D

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:26 pm
by abdalla11
djibsomali,

Zeylac is where Muhammad Harti (Majerteyn) wed his first wife Dahabo Majerteyn (qabiilka ciise baa dhalay) marka halkee baa noogu riixaysa Garowe, Zeylac habarti naa dhashaay baa ka soo jeeda adeer :D
They were partying like it was 1999 8-)

Re: Hyper, Arbman, or Arab speakers come in.

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:36 pm
by djibsomali
djibsomali,

Zeylac is where Muhammad Harti (Majerteyn) wed his first wife Dahabo Majerteyn (qabiilka ciise baa dhalay) marka halkee baa noogu riixaysa Garowe, Zeylac habarti naa dhashaay baa ka soo jeeda adeer :D
Odayguu eemusuu kuu mehersaday gabdha?

lol