Although I Hate Shabab With A Passion

[Murax]

I also can't help but notice the hypocracy of the mafia so called "Human Rights" Watchdogs. They constantly rail about the "inexcusable repression, brutality, etc." of Shabab everyday nonstop, yet When Warlords were charging people to drink water in their own deegan, displacing people from their homes, raping Women in Masaajido, taking people's property, starving hundreds of thousands, etc. for EIGHTEEN years, there wasn't one peep out of them. Yet, When Shabab who for as bad as they are, have actually restored some of these people's rights, and corrected some of these injustices, these so called UN Human Rights groups, etc. have all this to say. Time to call a spade a spade, and recognize hypocracy for what it is. The bottom line is Shabab as bad as they are, it is not them that these groups do not like, but they just do not want 1 central authority no matter how radical or how secular they are. Btw, these fools have always failed to discuss Ethiopian's shelling of Mogadishu, AMISOM's current shellings, and the TFG mooryaan robbing and terrorizing the population even getting in gunfights amongst themselves on a daily basis.

[Goljano Lion]

yaa habaaray konfuurta damned konfurians
Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done

[paidmonk]

Human Rights watchdogs and ALL NGOs are employees with a salary, they don't volunteer. This whole BS "saving the world" thing is a business, it brings in a huge income, I'm surprised you haven't picked this up earlier. Nothing is done for free, that's a fact, most people think White people have indispensable cash and are just angels running around de-licing negro babies around the world. A lot of them are also cover ups for other missions, like Pat Robertson's diamond smuggling in Liberia; anyone can rent a UN plane and do as they please. This week WFP was found unloading military equipment at Bosaso port. Why do you think the world hates Eritrea and Sudan so much? They said no to UN interference in their borders.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

war deg deg ah:munafiq Marax oo ku biirey alshabab

[Mad May]

F.cking xoolo, you've heard of one report which gave a balanced report on life under al-Shabaab and naturally assume that Human Rights Have been silent on the other players in the conflict. They even mention the TFG and AMISOM alongside al-Shabaab in the title, 'Harsh War, Harsh Peace: Abuses by Al-Shabaab, the Transit ional Federal Government, and AMISOM in Somalia,'
These people are much more informed on the dynamics of the conflict than you are dameeryahow

According to the report, Al-Shabaab, the Transitional Federal Government (TFG), and African Union (AU) forces in the war-torn capital, Mogadishu, continue to conduct indiscriminate attacks, killing and wounding numerous civilians.

The 62-page report, 'Harsh War, Harsh Peace: Abuses by Al-Shabaab, the Transit ional Federal Government, and AMISOM in Somalia,' finds that Al-Shabaab forces have brought greater stability to ma ny areas in southern Somalia, but at a high cost for the local population â" especially women.

Based on over 70 interviews with victims and witnesses, the report describes harsh punishments including amputations and floggings, which are meted out regularly and without due process.

People accused of being traitors or government sympathizers " often on flimsy pretexts " face execution or assassination. Al-Shabaab fighters had threatened some of those interviewed with death simply because they lived in government-controlled areas of Mogadishu.

'While Al-Shabaab has brought stability to some areas long plagued by violence, it has used unrelenting repression and brutality,' said Georgette Gagnon, HRW Africa director. 'The population under Al-Shabaab's control is paying a very steep price.'

HRW claimed that key international actors have often played a counterproductive role in the crisis and have played down abuses by AU troops deployed in Mogadishu to protect Somalia's weak transitional gove rnment.

Read the report, before you make statements on the basis of headlines of stories you cant be arsed to read

[Murax]

Human Rights watchdogs and ALL NGOs are employees with a salary, they don't volunteer. This whole BS "saving the world" thing is a business, it brings in a huge income, I'm surprised you haven't picked this up earlier. Nothing is done for free, that's a fact, most people think White people have indispensable cash and are just angels running around de-licing negro babies around the world. A lot of them are also cover ups for other missions, like Pat Robertson's diamond smuggling in Liberia; anyone can rent a UN plane and do as they please. This week WFP was found unloading military equipment at Bosaso port. Why do you think the world hates Eritrea and Sudan so much? They said no to UN interference in their borders.

Thats so true. When they say rhetoric like "These nations have politically isolated themselves" blah blah, is basically saying they didn't bend over like the rest of Africa. Sudan for years, these Guys tried to find guises to interfere under the guise of "UN Peacekeepers" but failed miseribely. The Sudanese Government signed a peace accord with the South, and just just signed one with the Darfour rebel groups, and right now the development of Sudan Has been outsourced to Chinese Companies who are all business and don't give a damn how You run Your Country.


Eritrea on the other hand, Has developed strategic partnerships with Israel, Russia and even Iran to counter American/EU bitterness over their lack of submission. Btw, World FOOD Program unloading WEAPONS in Bossaso?


Mad May,

Good analysis sweety.

[grandpakhalif]

Murax anyone who is legitimately working for Islam, they attach some sort of dogma to it.

[Murax]

Murax anyone who is legitimately working for Islam, they attach some sort of dogma to it.

Al Shabab is not working for Islam in My opinion, they are a Gang. That being said, Gotta call it even

[grandpakhalif]

Murax anyone who is legitimately working for Islam, they attach some sort of dogma to it.

Al Shabab is not working for Islam in My opinion, they are a Gang. That being said, Gotta call it even

Although their understanding of the deen is flawed, they DO have good intentions and distance themselves from kuffar causing them to be independent. Since the UN cannot line their pockets it is reduced to bitching about Human rights.

[Mad May]

You're attempts at condescension would be funnier if you spelt 'sweetie' correctly. Illiterate, cant read the report he complains about, cant spell his stupid comeback

[Voltage]

Human rights and these NGOs are the most corrupt things on earth. How do you interview one person who could be lying and then blast that as the official truth? They never do an actual investigation and always they toe the lines that Western governments give them. It is very Euro-centric.

Why has there not been one human rights report condemning the American military for 800,000 Iraqis killed in a war most Americans themselves believe to have been illegal? Fock these groups.

[InMOWeTrust]

To be fair, these so-called human 'rights' NGOs have no problems with al-Shabab per se. Rather, what they're against, and the reasons why they're so bitterly opposed to al-Shabab, is because of Islam. More specifically, the Sharia. And to be even more specific, the Hudud of Allah (e.g. cutting the hands of thieves, stoning of adulterers, execution of apostates).

[grandpakhalif]

To be fair, these so-called human 'rights' NGOs have no problems with al-Shabab per se. Rather, what they're against, and the reasons why they're so bitterly opposed to al-Shabab, is because of Islam. More specifically, the Sharia. And to be even more specific, the Hudud of Allah (e.g. cutting the hands of thieves, stoning of adulterers, execution of apostates).

Absolutely

[Voltage]

Speaking of the Hudud laws, God is merciful why are humans or Shabaab-types not?

"And those who invoke not any other god along with Allah, nor kill such life as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse (zina) and whoever does this shall receive the punishment. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace; except those who repent and believe and do righteous deeds, for those Allah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful." (al-Furqaan #25, ayat #68-70)

Almost always Allah (Swt) says in the Qur'an punish them this way unless they repent then don't do it meaning people have the option of asking for forgiveness provided it is genuine. So why do these punishments happen? Have people refused to repent directly to their lord?

[Murax]

Speaking of the Hudud laws, God is merciful why are humans or Shabaab-types not?

"And those who invoke not any other god along with Allah, nor kill such life as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse (zina) and whoever does this shall receive the punishment. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace; except those who repent and believe and do righteous deeds, for those Allah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful." (al-Furqaan #25, ayat #68-70)

Almost always Allah (Swt) says in the Qur'an punish them this way unless they repent then don't do it meaning people have the option of asking for forgiveness provided it is genuine. So why do these punishments happen? Have people refused to repent directly to their lord?

Voltage,

This Ayah in Furqan was revealed before the ayah in Sura Noor prescribing death for both the male and female adultur/adultress. Ofcourse these are for people who are 'tayyib' "married". They opening ayahs in Surah Noor Abbregated this ayah in Furqan.