Somalia in 2020?

[marcassmith]

An amateur effort!

This ingrained ideas that Somalia is in turmoil is a dangerous. An objective and impartial documentary would have taken considerations not to subsume former Somalia as one.

God Bless

[FAH1223]

An amateur effort!

This ingrained ideas that Somalia is in turmoil is a dangerous. An objective and impartial documentary would have taken considerations not to subsume former Somalia as one.

God Bless

Somalia is one when it comes to poverty, lack of jobs, infrastructure, the whole nine yards. Doesn't matter if your hood is more peaceful than others and there is a semblance of order, the same issues are there and cannot be alleviated without a whole hearted solution

[marcassmith]

a whole hearted solution

Explain more please?

[FAH1223]

a whole hearted solution

Explain more please?

A real government in power that has the capacity to solve these problems, and a recognized government that features the order and social security will have the resources to alleviate some of these issues.

In Somalia, its extremes. You have Somaliland, an unrecognized government without the capacity to alleviate some of the ills I highlighted for example. Then you have the TFG which has all the money to go forward, but no power or legitimacy to speak of.

[marcassmith]

a whole hearted solution

Explain more please?

A real government in power that has the capacity to solve these problems, and a recognized government that features the order and social security will have the resources to alleviate some of these issues.

In Somalia, its extremes. You have Somaliland, an unrecognized government without the capacity to alleviate some of the ills I highlighted for example. Then you have the TFG which has all the money to go forward, but no power or legitimacy to speak of.

FAH1223 - the political contortionist, you cant be all things to all men.

Somaliland exists! If you don't want to take my words for it, see the factual state of affairs that exists on the ground there. We do not need an African Union representatives 'telling us' we have been recognised. Recognition comes from the self.

As for finding the government you have mentioned, we Somalilanders only want the best for our brothers and sisters, and I am not one of those who take pride in the people of Somalia suffering. But the facts are on the ground are entrenched and will not be adjusted to suit a government that is incompetent, inept and unable to perform the basic function of a government. According to recent research almost 60% of Somalilanders are under the age of 20 years old, how do you sell them ludicrous idea that they will lose their sovereign and right to self-determinations to a government based in Mogadishu. The other 40% or so witnessed, survived the horrors of war. It’s in the best interests of all Somalis to accept the eventual and inevitable fragmentation of the former Somalia. Instead of being stuck in a stale mate, we can have diplomatic ties and trade links.

[FAH1223]

FAH1223 - the political contortionist, you cant be all things to all men.

Somaliland exists! If don't want to take my words for it, see the factual state of affairs that exists on the ground there. We do not need an African Union representatives 'telling us' we have been recognised. Recognition comes from the self.

As for finding the government you have mentioned, we Somalilanders only want the best for our brothers and sisters, and I am not one of those who take pride in the people of Somalia suffering. But the facts are on the ground are entrenched and will not be adjusted to suit a government that is incompetent, inept and unable to perform the basic function of a government. According recent research almost 60% of Somalilanders are under the age of 20 years old, how do you sell them ludicrous idea that they will lose their sovereign and right to self-determinations to a government based in Mogadishu. The other 40% or so witnessed the horrors of war. It’s in the best interests of all Somalis to accept the eventual and inevitable fragmentation of the former Somalia. Instead of being stuck in a stale mate, we can have diplomatic ties and trade links.

I never said Somaliland didn't exist.

I just said the solution has to be all inclusive, it doesn't matter if its 5 Somalias there

[marcassmith]

It seems to me that the idea of governance is only being exercised in Somaliland. This is exclusive to us only because we value peace, stability and governance. We are only responsible for that which is in within our jurisdiction. We are not responsible for Somalia, that is the responsibility of the people of Somalia.