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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Twisted_Logic » Fri May 28, 2010 1:09 pm

ciyaal_warta wrote:
Air Canada wrote:Hiiraan is home to many different Hawiye clans like Xawaadle, Gaaljecel, Baadicadde, HabarGidir, Mudulood etc.



HG and Mudulood are on the border of hiiraan state ...mataban is half hawadleh half HG city which is on the border sxb...they wont be involved...we dont wana HG vs Mdld war in hiiraan :down:


As far as we are concerned, Hiiraan is 100% Xawadle. Others can reside according Xawadle rules and regulations :idea:

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri May 28, 2010 1:13 pm

Ciyaalwarta,

Xawadle are NOT the majority :down: But they should still lead because they are the most proHawiyist of them all.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Twisted_Logic » Fri May 28, 2010 1:27 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ciyaalwarta,

Xawadle are NOT the majority :down: But they should still lead because they are the most proHawiyist of them all.


Mudulood also lives in Hiiraan but the only clan that counts in Hiiraan is Beesha Xawadle

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby ciyaal_warta » Fri May 28, 2010 1:51 pm

Twisted_Logic wrote:
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ciyaalwarta,

Xawadle are NOT the majority :down: But they should still lead because they are the most proHawiyist of them all.


Mudulood also lives in Hiiraan but the only clan that counts in Hiiraan is Beesha Xawadle




TL
yap according to our rules and regulations :up: :up:


AW
yeah right Sacad is the majority in Hiiraan..waxi la rabo maa la sheegaa :lol: :lol:

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Executive » Fri May 28, 2010 2:14 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ciyaalwarta,

Xawadle are NOT the majority :down: But they should still lead because they are the most proHawiyist of them all.



Of course Hawadle are the majority, Hiiraan is a synonym to Hawadle. And I bet thats the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear Hawadle.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri May 28, 2010 2:16 pm

Executive,

Negative, the first thing which comes to my mind when I hear Xawadle is my first true love.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby xoogSADE14 » Fri May 28, 2010 2:55 pm

AW

I wasn't talking about Hiiraan in particular. HG as important politically, economically and military stand to lose the most in a federal Somalia because there isn't a single province in Somalia where you guys are the majority. Thats one of the main reasons why you guys are against an effective government being established for Somalia even if one of your own is leading it.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby ciyaal_warta » Fri May 28, 2010 2:57 pm

Executive wrote:
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ciyaalwarta,

Xawadle are NOT the majority :down: But they should still lead because they are the most proHawiyist of them all.



Of course Hawadle are the majority, Hiiraan is a synonym to Hawadle. And I bet thats the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear Hawadle.



allah yakhaleek abti :up: :up:


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we are the majority in hiiraan and wateve we say will be done in hiiraan...hiiraan =hawadle :up:

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri May 28, 2010 3:03 pm

xoogSADE14 wrote:AW

I wasn't talking about Hiiraan in particular. HG as important politically, economically and military stand to lose the most in a federal Somalia because there isn't a single province in Somalia where you guys are the majority. Thats one of the main reasons why you guys are against an effective government being established for Somalia even if one of your own is leading it.



Xoogsade,

And whose fault was that HG and Hawiye in general never received more than two provinces besides Hiiraan where they were the sole majority yet carved away more provinces for the Darood: Sool, Nugaal etc

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby xoogSADE14 » Fri May 28, 2010 3:16 pm

AW

Sxb HG iyo Sool/Nugaal maxaa iska galay? Gobolada markii labadiyay adinkeey idin caawisay. Imagine if Mudug hadn't been split into two? Dhibka HG heeystaa waxuu yahay markiinii horeba beeroleeyna miinaan aheeyn xoolo badana miinaan laheeyn.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Somaliweyn » Sat May 29, 2010 3:20 am

AW/Xoogsade,

If we go by the previous regional division (pre-1975) than Mudug (Mudug/Galgaduud) is majority HG if we compare subclans and if it comes to clans than Hawiye is the majority in Mudug.

Banadir (both shabelle and ceeldheer) is majority Mudulood.

T-L,

Saying Hiiraan is Xawaadle is disrespectful to Gugundhabe and Udeejeen/ reer aw xassan and other clans. They are the majority on the eastern banks of Hiiraan, but on the western side u have Gugundhabe.

Especially Gaaljecel and Baadicadde have long history in the region. From the expulsion of the Ajuuraan to the resistance against the Italians. Lets respect their long history in the region.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby paidmonk » Sat May 29, 2010 3:32 am

Somaliweyn wrote:AW/Xoogsade,

If we go by the previous regional division (pre-1975) than Mudug (Mudug/Galgaduud) is majority HG if we compare subclans and if it comes to clans than Hawiye is the majority in Mudug.


lol.

Hawiye inhabiting the smallest district in Gaalkacyo and the two smaller districts in Mudug make them the largest. Great math.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Murax » Sat May 29, 2010 3:37 am

Executive,

:lol: :lol:

You have to have a lot of kids Inshallah, and soon maybe Dhulbahante will have a Bah Xawaadle


Ciyaal Warta,

Ugaasnimada in Sade is Bah Xawaadle 8-)

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby Somaliweyn » Sat May 29, 2010 3:41 am

paidmonk wrote:
Somaliweyn wrote:AW/Xoogsade,

If we go by the previous regional division (pre-1975) than Mudug (Mudug/Galgaduud) is majority HG if we compare subclans and if it comes to clans than Hawiye is the majority in Mudug.


lol.

Hawiye inhabiting the smallest district in Gaalkacyo and the two smaller districts in Mudug make them the largest. Great math.


Mudug region: current Mudug and Galgaduud.

You have Murusade, Duduble, Abgaal, HG and Sheikhaal. HG is majority subclan in Mudug.

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Re: hiiraan state of Somalia

Postby paidmonk » Sat May 29, 2010 3:44 am

Ok, in greater Mudug I agree.


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