The Right Kind of Leader Who Can Defeat The Enemy

[AbdiWahab252]

I am very impressed with the Ayatollah Abdi Hassan Awale, Defender of the Faithful and Custodian of the Cabdallah iyo Cawerere Masjid. He is a humble, smart man whose pragmatic leadership is what is needed to defeat the Shabab & Al Qaeda menace. Yet the vanquisher of the Ikwaan and nemesis of the Shabab is not rewarded for his consistent resolve against the menace he foresaw 10 years ago. Instead we have two futile cowards and parliament of jackals who are more interested in fighting each other than an enemy lead by foreigners sent from Caves whose viciousness knows no bounds.

I frankly believe that the Usurper and the Pillsbury doughboy merely are there to ensure the status quo: maintain the chaotic Somalia. If the so called international community where truly geniunine about defeating the Shabab, they would not have supported a Usurper who lacks credibility among his own Islamists, and his kinfolk nor would they support an exile who hasn't resided in Somalia for decades and hails from a region of the country that does not support his government.

To defeat Shabab, Somalia needs a leader:

1. Whose commitment to destroy the Shabab & greater Ikwan agenda is in no doubt.
2. Is an avowed secularist.
3. Has extensive experience in military campaigns.
4. Is a pragmatist whose judgment is not clouded by the past tribal feuds.
5. Can contribute significant manpower and armor to the fight against the Bin Ladenists.

As long as the International Community keeps on nominating men whose political constituency can not muster men and resources to the fight, then Shabab will not be defeated.

AWALE 2011

[gurey25]

Abdi we have already gone through this dozens of times..

You do not need a saviour, a single guy who will solve your problems..
You have allot of potential leaders but you have no organization.

You need to form a grass roots movement to defeat this menace...

[Jamac_Yare]

i though you got married why you still here islantadaaa ka shaqaay

[AbdiWahab252]

Gurey,

Grassroots ? There is no time for that. We need a leader who can set the tone and organize the fight. When the objective is met, we can elect reasonable men to lead.

Jamac,

Sex is like air, doesn't matter unless you ain't getting any.

[Cirwaaq]

We all thought Sharif was the man... little did we know or believe absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Figthing for control of the people and their resources!

- TFG-warlords
- Al-shabab-
- ASWJ-only tookup arms to defend their way of life. (lesser evil)

There is an unnatural symbiosis in Koonfur and sudden extraction of one of the varriables could result in unpredictable turn of events. Give uneven advantage to any group and you are creating a monster.

The only independent varriable is:

- The civilians-all they want is peace from warlords and terrorists. They will suffer the most in any war regardless of their affiliation.

[gurey25]

how viable is ahlu sunna wa jamaca?
and what territory do they control...

can they be a counter wieght to alshabab?
they seemed to be holding thier own...

[AbdiWahab252]

Cirwaaq,

I knew that the Usurper was a conman. He did not have the heart nor ability to go to war against the terrorists.

Gurey,

Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jameeca is a loosely affiliated group who are united in their opposition to the Shabab and Ikwaan agenda. The reason why they have kept Central Somalia free of Shabab is due to strong local support and of course the strong support among the clerics who have long opposed the Ikhwan mafia.

ASWJ is the thin line keeping Shabab contained in the South, if they fall, Shabab can sweep into the Northeast and North.

[Jamac_Yare]

Jamac,

Sex is like air, doesn't matter unless you ain't getting any.

ka shaqaysii baan ku yirii in the air lama raboo

[gurey25]

ASWJ is the thin line keeping Shabab contained in the South, if they fall, Shabab can sweep into the Northeast and North.

you cant be serious.. why do people over estimate alshabaab?

I was asking the previous question to find out if this organization can be the basis of a larger alliance against alshabab.

If you can inflict a couple of defeats on the battlefield with alshabaab followed by a diplomatic offensive against
the clans allied to them, and showering them with bribes, couldnt this hit them hard enough?

bullets and bags of dollars is whats needed...
i am sure alshabaab will lose a good percentage of its forces this way

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Even Imam Awale Al-Wahabidiid will not succeed as long this government depends too much on foreign breast milk.

[gurey25]

If i was in charge of policy i will cut off all aid to the TFG, and force them to relocate to mudug..
and divert all funds ahlu sunna wa al jamaca....

keep the AU troops in moqadishu, but give them a mandate to provide logistical support to Aswj




funding should be given to those who fight... not useless old farts in the TFG..

[Cirwaaq]

... loooooooool

Well TFG f*cked up there once again. TFG attempted to meddle with the internal politics fo ASWJ who were there last line of defence. TFG does not wish to negotiate they should to undermine and retain majority stake and also secure the termination of all those who would not accent their Haraam while in office.

TFG warlords and Al-shabab have little chance of coexistence purely due to the corruption of the TFG warlords. If Moderate ASWJ don't trust the TFG there is no chance Al-shabab would either work with them or sit at the same table as them.

The weak link is the TFG and that is the reason we don't have any communication between the TFG and Al-shabab.

[xoogSADE14]

You guys keep talking about ASWJ as if they are an organized group with a centralized command structure. ASWJ is just a collection of previously warring clans who have put aside their differences to take on Shabab.

[gurey25]

You guys keep talking about ASWJ as if they are an organized group with a centralized command structure. ASWJ is just a collection of previously warring clans who have put aside their differences to take on Shabab.

isnt this a positive thing..
they are willing to fight..

while the TFG is happy stealing the aid money and hiding behind the backs of Ugandans..

[xoogSADE14]

Yes they're willing to fight and have so far managed to stave off Shabab's divide and conquer tactics. However, none of the ASWJ factions are lead by educated men who are capable of running a country or anything outside of central Somalia.

I'm in no way supporting this TFG but replacing it with ASWJ is just not a feasible option. Also ASWJ's biggest benefactor Ethiopia has no interest in seeing the group transform into anything more than the border guards that they currently are. Zenawi even had ministerial position that were allocated for ASWJ in their powersharing agreement with the TFG given to non ASWJ members just to keep them out of the TFG and under Addis Ababa's tight grip.