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Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby CoolPoisons » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:39 am

“Has your daughter graduated?” asked one of two Somali middle-aged female passengers as we queued for the bus.

“Yes,” the other woman mumbled.

“Has she been married?”

“No! Even her older sister is still at home.”

“I have also one girl who is in the conventional age for marrying and waiting for her luck.”

“Nowadays, in Britain, it is difficult for Somali girls to find Mr. Right. They have admirably risen to the difficulties we are in. They study hard and work hard but find difficult to settle down as there are no worthwhile men.”

The exchange between the two women came to an abrupt end as the double-decker bus pulled in.
Was the conversation between the two women a male bashing exercise or was it reflecting a genuine difficulty surrounding Somali marriage in Britain?

Let us start with some basic facts. According to the 2001 Census, the Somali population in Britain was 46% male and 54% female. Research carried out by the Institute for Public Policy Research in 2007 showed a higher sex-ratio imbalance: 38% male and 62% female. If we add to this imbalance the high number of Somali men who chew khat, (a natural stimulant from the Catha edulis plant) making them undesirable marriage partners, and the high number of unemployed men then it is not surprising to see why Somali women are finding it difficult to find husbands. Guttentag and Secord, who write about sex ratios, describe the reaction of women in gender imbalance societies: “Women in such societies would have a subjective sense of powerlessness and would personally be devalued by the society.”

Two other factors add to the difficulties in finding marriage partners: it is not the norm within Somali culture or community to accept interracial marriage and even interclan marriage is sometimes discouraged. As a result, finding a suitable man from the same background extends the long list of requirements that need to be satisfied to clinch a marriage. Educated Somali women often find that men feel threatened by their education when it comes to partner selection. Is a wife’s education an asset to the household or threat to the family order?
Somali men travelling outside Britain to get married are also exacerbating the marriage squeeze. As more men travel to other countries especially developing countries to get married more eligible women remain single beyond the conventional marrying age. Britain has challenged Somalis’ patriarchal social system and upset traditional gender roles and power. Some of the men who prefer traditional roles in the family based on male dominance get married to Somali women in third world countries who still accept the traditional model.

Now let us turn our attention to girls who say ‘I can’t find Mr. Right.’ Peter Hector, the author of Love is no Guarantee!, asked some women to describe their ideal man and their reply was: “Soul mate, emotionally secure, financially stable, and intellectually stimulating, a good sense of humour, a gentleman, not afraid to express love and affection, ready to commit and accept responsibility. In addition, he must be reasonably good looking and in good physical shape.” Somali girls would add: a practising Muslim. Girls, you need more than an ounce of luck to find such perfect men. It does not mean they do not exist but how long does it take to get them?

Some girls argue that they are not perfectionists but they are unable to meet decent men. Love marriage has replaced arranged marriage but finding Mr. Right is proving to be problematic for some. Under the system of arranged marriages, mate selection is the business of the parents. In love marriages, courtship is the business of the couples concerned but where can this happen? Education centres, work places and social events are the usual places for boys and girls to meet but some girls are finding these places inaccessible or unproductive.

Most girls who are ready to settle have either completed their education and have no access to education centres or are pursuing higher education as an alternative to family life. In this case they are interacting with boys who have an equally long list of requirements which are not compatible to their requirements. Or they work in places where eligible Somali men are rare to find. Social events such as weddings used to offer ideal opportunities for single people to meet but Somalis are becoming more religious and women and men are progressively being kept apart. Rima McGown notes in his book Muslim in the Diaspora “The Islamists’ influence is obvious in the very way that the practice of Islam has evolved for diaspora Somalis.”

What can Somali girls do when faced with an unfavourable sex-ratio, heavy cultural directives, and men threatened by the prospects of independent women?

This is not an issue for girls only. It is a problem for the community and needs collective solutions. Recognising and appreciating the challenges that girls face in moving from single life to married life deserve the full attention of the community. Re-examining cultural directives and gender relations and creating an environment conducive for singles to meet may end the loneliness some may feel. And for boys, do you have to make a “Cook’s tour of the world” to find partners? And for girls, are you setting the standard too high or, as Hector asked: “Are you realistic, approachable, and flexible?”

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby The_Emperior5 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:41 am

Coolpoisne sxb ma relationship therapist baad noqtay :lol:

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:53 am

Both girls & boys need to get out and about more and socialise with all sections of their community..Parents should also stop believing in this 'sharaf only if you stay at home' thing....they are hindering and holding back their daughters.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Air Canada » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:57 am

Both girls & boys need to get out and about more and socialise with all sections of their community..Parents should also stop believing in this 'sharaf only if you stay at home' thing....they are hindering and holding back their daughters.

Test drive before you finalise the deal?

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:59 am

Social events such as weddings used to offer ideal opportunities for single people to meet but Somalis are becoming more religious and women and men are progressively being kept apart. Rima McGown notes in his book Muslim in the Diaspora “The Islamists’ influence is obvious in the very way that the practice of Islam has evolved for diaspora Somalis.”
:up: Sad but true.


Air Canada...I'm talking about socialising! whats this testdriving nonsense.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Ayeeyo Xilwa » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:02 am

It has nothing to do with finding MR RIGHT but everything is qadar..waqtigi ilaahy ku qorey
uun bad guursan, hadi aad guursan waynidna waa amar alle...EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN, END OF D.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Air Canada » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:04 am

socialise? what the fuck...of course people get to know each other before they marry, at least most people do that. Nobody marries someone they have never talked to but i wanted to know what you meant when you said parents should let girls and boys to get out.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Leila25 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:11 am

I thought male numbers exceeded females because majority of refugees or new asylum seekers are by far men. The older you are, the harder it gets and when you are young you dont know what you want or looking to settle. If it was back home and you worked or went university, you had a very good chance of meeting potential husband, but to rely on wedding events is really bad.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:11 am

It has nothing to do with finding MR RIGHT but everything is qadar..waqtigi ilaahy ku qorey
uun bad guursan, hadi aad guursan waynidna waa amar alle...EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN, END OF D.
You can only say that if you have tried every avenue.You can't say it's Qadar Alle if you just seclude your self from society and potential husbands and make little or no effort.



Aircanada, how do people get to know each other in Somalia?

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:12 am

Air Canada,

Breed.

Breed.

Breed.

Enlightened Sister,

These social events are a good place to meet people. I however had to travel all the way to the motherland to meet the Qalanjo I was seeking for many years.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Air Canada » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:15 am

CoolBoon is talking about the so called intellectual xaliimos in the WEST who end up being guumeesyaal and lonely.

Don't worry about the women in Somalia, they are doing well, i think.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:16 am

Leila, how about those who rely on the internet only? thats much worse.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Jamac_Yare » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:21 am

London HOME SWEET HOME :lol: :lol:

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:23 am

Enlightened Sister,

These social events are a good place to meet people.

It is a good place I agree, but many think these places are evil and must be avoided at all cost ...and little wonder its these same people who later complain about not coming across any good Somalis.

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Re: Difficult to find Mr. Right?

Postby Leila25 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:24 am

Leila, how about those who rely on the internet only? thats much worse
Not at all, i know of several marriages where the couple met through the internet, it works and its growing fast among the Muslim community. The internet gives you a wide option without much time wasting, you can meet the person if you like their profile and take it further from there. I recommend the internet. As for weddings, you dont get to interact with the person, you give them your details without knowing much about them, its based on physical attraction first (nothing wrong with that)


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