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WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby Salahuddiin » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:09 am

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Answer to your first point is that Sacad bin Maalik is Sacad bin Abi Waqqaas and not some other little known saxabi so there's no contradiction because it is one man with two different ways of calling him. Like Abu Bakr was called Abu Bakr, al Siddiiq and Ibn Abi Quhafa and his real name was Abdullah bin Uthman. Still all those names are talking about one man. So there's no contradictions concerning that.

I don't see the problem in your second point. So what if it was this particular saxabi who narrated it and not someone else? Are you questioning every single hadiith that why was this hadiith for example narrated by Abu Huraira and not Anas bin Maalik? What difference does it make who narrated it?

And also there could be that Prophet SCWS said something and there were only few people or maybe one person with him and others didn't hear about it. For example when Umar was khalifa it once happened that he wanted to see some saxabi (don't remember who) and when he came to Umar's house he knocked, but Umar couldn't answer straight away because he was busy, so this saxabi knocked three times and after that he left. Umar came out and couldn't find him. Later when Umar saw him he asked why did you leave, and the man answered that Prophet SCWS taught us to knock three times and leave after that so not to bother someone if he's busy. Umar asked him to bring another witness to confirm that Prophet SCWS said this and the man did.

Also it could be that if someone heard Prophet SCWS praising him, he wouldn't go around telling it to everyone because of humbleness. Also in the hadiith of Saciid bin Zaid he only mentioned the other nine and only after being asked he told that he was the tenth.

Anyway even if all those ten would be present how would it matter which one narrated it? By the way there is another narration about the background of this hadiith narrated also by Saciid bin Zaid and it was reported by Ibn Asaakir. Saciid heard Abu Bakr asking Prophet SCWS that he would like to see a man from the people of Paradise and Prophet said that he SCWS would be from them. Abu Bakr said that there's no doubt about it and Prophet SCWS replied that you are in Paradise, Umar is in Paradise etc...

Those ten mentioned in this hadiith are not only ones who were promised Paradise. There are other ahaadiith about several asxaab promised Paradise (Abdullah bin Salam, Bilal, Jacfar, Zaid, father of Jaabir bin Abdullah etc) and there are also separate narrations from some of those included in the list of ten where they were also promised Jannah.

Those 10 were known to be the best of saxaba, and when Umar was dying he named shuura to elect the next khalifa from among themselves and he chose the best people alive that time: Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair, Sacad bin Abi Waqqas and AbdulRahman bin Awf. Abu Ubayda had already died during a plague while leading an army in Shaam and Saciid bin Zaid wasn't named perhaps because he was from the same qabiil with Umar.

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby Executive » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:01 pm


Like I and the others said Abu Waqqaas is the nickname of Maalik ibn Uhayb, father of Sa'ad
Lying in the month of ramadan is not tolerated.
the other asxabii is called Saad bin Malik Al-Khudari and you were lying a about saad abu waqqaas ibn uhayb,


Lying in any month is not tolerated, What is the evidence you have to call me a liar??

Just like I have already stated and many others Sacad bin Maalik is Sacad bin Abi Waqqaas

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby djibsomali » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:21 am


Like I and the others said Abu Waqqaas is the nickname of Maalik ibn Uhayb, father of Sa'ad
Lying in the month of ramadan is not tolerated.
the other asxabii is called Saad bin Malik Al-Khudari and you were lying a about saad abu waqqaas ibn uhayb,


Lying in any month is not tolerated, What is the evidence you have to call me a liar??

Just like I have already stated and many others Sacad bin Maalik is Sacad bin Abi Waqqaas
it is saad bin mali al-khudari
while the other is sacad bin abi waqqas ibn uhayb

Are you blind illahay indhahaa kaa soo turyay.

waar is it the same (if i tell you in somali)
omar hassan al bashir farah
iyoo
omar xildid musse dhariyooleeh

are they the same???
The two asxabii are different and both of them were minor against the best like jacfaar ibn abuu daliib iyoo hamsa iyo zayd ibn harithaa
why are those not part of the 10 blessed???

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby djibsomali » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:24 am

now since i have putted across the question of the 10 blessed companion
and requested to tell us any hadith without any contradiction!!

everyone failed as other ulema have failed to provide.

This hadith is fabricated and it is very weak
for the following reason:

* They struggle in narrowing down who the ten are. One time they insert Saad bin Abi Waqqas and another they put Saad bin Malik in his place
* The first of the hadith did not mention Imam Ali, nor Ibn al-Jarrah; yielding only seven promised Paradise, of course, not counting the prophet (SAW)
* The first and third are essentially the same hadeeth, by the same person, but the order of those in Paradise is different, one person added and another dropped, and only seven people are listed in Abu Daouds'
* Listing of the Prophet (SAW) among those promised Paradise is something that confirms forgery! Does anyone really believe that his companions enter Paradise and he will be left behind? He need not advertise that - it is a given
* Both narrators are telling the hadith about themselves. Both narrators are including themselves in the group promised paradise. According to Islamic law, when someone praises others by praising himself, it is disregarded altogether. The same is true if someone bears witness for someone else, while at the same time, even partially self-serving, his testimony is rejected
* The history of the so called ten does not mandate this great reward, at the expense of exclusion of other pious companions, who in fact remained unblemished till their demise. Bukhari and Muslim did not even set aside a virtues section on neither Saad bin Zaid nor AbdulRahman bin `Awf, while Bukhari has a sections for Mu'awiya, one hadeeth for Khalid bin al-Waleed and just a section heading for Mus'ab bin `Umai
* Saad bin Malik, in fact, is not among the 10 highly regarded by the Sunnis
* Note the placement of the Imam Ali is, conveniently, the fourth in a group which does not contain a single supporter of the Imam from among the companions of the prophet. Accordingly, the Sunnis have agreed on holding these ten in high regard. Clearly, the nine mentioned with the Imam are his adversaries and none were on his side

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby Executive » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:58 am


Lying in the month of ramadan is not tolerated.
the other asxabii is called Saad bin Malik Al-Khudari and you were lying a about saad abu waqqaas ibn uhayb,


Lying in any month is not tolerated, What is the evidence you have to call me a liar??

Just like I have already stated and many others Sacad bin Maalik is Sacad bin Abi Waqqaas
it is saad bin mali al-khudari
while the other is sacad bin abi waqqas ibn uhayb

Are you blind illahay indhahaa kaa soo turyay.

waar is it the same (if i tell you in somali)
omar hassan al bashir farah
iyoo
omar xildid musse dhariyooleeh

are they the same???
The two asxabii are different and both of them were minor against the best like jacfaar ibn abuu daliib iyoo hamsa iyo zayd ibn harithaa
why are those not part of the 10 blessed???

Sacad bin Maalik is Sacad bin Abi Waqqaas

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby djibsomali » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:00 pm

you are bit late on the dumb front!!

we are talking now about zayd bin haritha
the greatest asxaabi that have ever walked on this earth!!!

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby IRONm@N » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:22 pm

If you are familiar with Hadiths, its been reported by different ppl with human memory like yours. some remember the whole detail and some remember the most important parts.
so when you ask 20 different ppl to tell you the same story, of course it will be different from one person to another, but the central idea will remain the same. so don't sweat it. if you find it in Saxiixul Bukhari , that means its correct.

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby abdalla11 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:54 am

Djibsomali

Again, is Abu waqaas a normal first name or is it a nickname? bal taas ka jawaab

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby djibsomali » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:12 am

Djibsomali

Again, is Abu waqaas a normal first name or is it a nickname? bal taas ka jawaab
there are 2 distinct people and even do not have the same grand father
which the second grand father is alkhudari

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby djibsomali » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:14 am

but then again you are late on this front
We are talking now about the greatest of all of them

Zayd ibn haritha

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Re: WHO WERE THE TEN (10) BLESSED PROPHET COMPANIONS????

Postby abdalla11 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:27 am

Djibsomali

Again, is Abu waqaas a normal first name or is it a nickname? bal taas ka jawaab
there are 2 distinct people and even do not have the same grand father
which the second grand father is alkhudari
Why don't you answer my question, is abu waqaas ( the father of waqaas) a normal first name or is it a nick name ( kunya in arabic)


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