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"sadaq Allaahul-'Adtheem" bidca or not?

Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:04 am

Bissmeallah w slato w slamo cala Rasool Ellah

ama bacad Asalm Cala Man Atabac al hoda


SAYING "SADAQ ALLAAHUL-'ADTHEEM" AFTER
FINISHING READING THE QUR'ÂN



Question: What is the ruling regarding the saying of "sadaq Allaahul-'Adtheem" after finishing reading of the Qur'ân?



Response: All Praise is for Allaah, the One, and prayers and salutations upon His Messenger, his family and his companions. To proceed:



The saying of "sadaq Allaahul-'Adtheem" after finishing reading of the Qur'an is an innovation. The Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) did not do this and nor did the Rightly Guided Khulafaa, nor any of the (other) Companions (radhi-yallaahu 'anhum) and nor the Imaams of the (Pious) Predecessors (rahima-humullaah). This being with their vast reading and assistance in spreading it's (the Qur'ân's) message and knowing it's rulings. So the saying of this and adhering to it after finishing the reading (of the Qur'ân) is an innovation. It has been confirmed on the authority of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) that he said:



((Anyone who introduces something into this matter of ours (i.e. Islaam), that which is not from it, will have it rejected)) - this (narration) is agreed upon (by both Imaam al-Bukhaaree and Imaam Muslim).



And in another narration:

((Anyone who does an act which is not in agreement with us, then he will have it rejected)) - narrated by Muslim.



And with Allaah lies all success and may Allaah send prayers and salutations upon our Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) and his family and his companions.



The Permanent Committee for Islaamic Research and Fataawa

The current members of the Permanent Committee include:
Head: Shaykh 'Abdul 'Azeez Aal ash-Shaykh;
Deputy Head: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn Ghudayyaan;
Member: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn Qu'ood;
Member: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn Munay;
Member: Shaykh Saalih Ibn Fowzaan;
Member: Shaykh Bakar 'Abdullaah Abu Zayd.


Amongst the members who have passed away include:
Shaykh Ibraaheem Ibn Muhammad Aal ash-Shaykh;
Shaykh 'Abdul 'Azeez Ibn Baaz;
Shaykh 'Abdur-Razzaaq Ibn 'Afeefee.

al-Bid'u wal-Muhdathaat wa maa laa Asla la
hu - Page 571;
Fataawa al-Lajnah ad-Daa.imah lil-Buhooth al-'Ilmiyyah wal-Iftaa. - Fatwa No. 3303



This is the answer Sheikh Bin Baz gave to a question on the status of saying "sadaqa allahu al-atheem" after reciting Qur'an according to the way of the Salaf-us-Salih:
"Praise be to Allah.

I do not know any basis for the people's habit of saying "sadaqa allahu al-atheem" when they finish reading Qur'an, so it should not be taken as a habit. Indeed according to the principles of sharee'ah it is more like bida'a, if any believes it is sunnah. So this should not be done and shouldnot be taken as a habit.

With regard to the ayat: "Say O Muhammad: Allah has spoken the truth"

(Al-Imran 3:95) - this is not speaking about this matter. Rather Allah was commanding him to explain to the people that Allah has spoken the truth in what he has said, in His books, the Tawrat, etc., and that he has spoken the truth in all that He had said to His slaves in the Tawrat the Injeel and all other revealed books.

And he was speaking the truth in all that he said his slaves in his book the Qur'an.
But this is not evidence that it is mustahabb to say "sadaqa allahu al-atheem" after reading the Qur'an or after reading some ayahs or a surah.

This is not reported or known from the Prophet SAWS or his companions (radi allahu anhum).
When Ibn Masood recited to the Prophet SAWS from the beginning of surat ul nisa'a until he reached the ayat:
"How will it be then, when we bring from each nation a witness and we bring you o muhammad as a witness against these people?"

the Prophet SAWS said to him "Enough"

Ibn Masood said: "I turned and saw that his eyes were filled with tears", i.e. he was weeping of the mention of this great status on the Day of Resurrection which is mentioned in this ayat, Where Allah says: "How will it be then, when we bring from each nation a witness and we bring you - O Muhammad - as a witness against these people" (i.e. his ummah)

The point here is that there is no basis in sharee'ah for adding these words "sadaqa allahu al-atheem" when finished reading the Qur'an. What is prescribed is not to do this, in accordance with the example of the Prophet SAWS and his companions (radi allahu anhum). But if a person does that sometimes, without intending to, it doesn't matter, for Allah speaks the truth in all matters, may he be glorified and exalted. But making a habit every time one reads the Qur'an, as many people do now adays, has no basis, as stated above."

Kitaab Majmoo Fatawaa wa Maqaalat Mutanaawi'ah li Samaahat Ash-Sheikh Al-Ulamaa Abdul Aziz Ibn Abdullah Ibn Baz



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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:37 am

Sir-Luggoyo here u have it bro .. Barak Allahu feekom ya muslims


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Postby Sir-Luggoyo » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:10 am

Somalisizs,

I thank you for your effort and search but I still don't see any harm in saying "Sadaqa_Llaahul Catheem" after reading the Qur'an. It's a statment that is asserting the truthfulness of the Almighty (CW)

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:20 am

To recite the quran al kareem is part of cibadah and we should not add to the cibadah and what worried me was when I read this article and I did hear it from other Muslims as well, but this was by Ibn baz (may he rest in peace) a well known knowledgeable scholar. Insha*Allah kheyr , I need to go and Pray insha*Allaah

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Postby *Proud_Muslimah* » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:20 pm

Assalamu Alaikum,

"sadaqo Allahul-'A'theem" is a bid'ca? Sister, this doesn't sound right...I will have to double check on that. A lot of people use it.

Check your PM Insh'Allah

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Postby The Law26 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:35 pm

What is wrong saying Sadaqa-Allah Cathiim?

With due respect to the Mufti of Saudi Arabia and others you quoted above, there are many innovations, even within the Saudi Islamic law (if you are aware of the sources) is full of them. They are allowed as long as they do not serve to distort the Word of Allah SWT. Wahabi aka salafis even see greeting someone in friendship and wishing them well in Ramadan (Ramadan kariim or mubaarak) to be bida’, a woman driving as if only men drove automobiles during the prophet's time.

But isn’t it all said and done within the spirit of the faith?

Remember also, that the word "innovation" is not necessarily a bad word. We were warned ONLY not TO make any new INNOVATIONS that would alter the meaning and worshipping of Islam. The Prophet pbuh probably never said half of the things that we say today because some of those things may be due to culture and not religion. Not everything that is added is frowned upon. What sort of mosque did you pray in? A modern mosque or a 7th century mosque? Is praying on a air conditioned carpeted mosque a bida’? How about reading the Koran or hadith (via cyber or as in books) in its current form? Remember the time of our prophet pbuh people only mesmerized the Koran We are allowed to do all those things because they add postive weight to the spirit of Islam.

May I remind you of the story where our prophet pbuh was leading a group of people in prayer and upon rising from the rukoo3 position, (bending) one of the men in the back rows was overheard by the prophet pbuh adding some words of his own to what is said normally, which is "Sami3 Allah liman hamida, Rabbana lakal hamd." This man added the words: "HAMDAN KATHEERAN, TAYIBAN, MUBAARAKAN FEEHE."

Upon finishing the prayer, the prophet pbuh asked the congregation, "Which one of you added those words?" This poor man was reluctant to answer, thinking that he had done something wrong, slowly raised his hand and said: "It was I, yaa Rasool Allah."

The prophet pbuh said to him: "When you said that, I saw 30 Angels racing to see which one of them would write it down for you first." (as a reward.)

War gabadhaan naga qabta.

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Postby intellex » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:39 pm

sista somaliz , can i suggest u talk to your father about a certain things or any imam , or big brother , if you have questions like this one

thank you

to answer your question its a bidca you have to have to say when u finish

your ducaa, or reading your quraan

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Postby COOL-MAN » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:54 pm

[quote="The Law26"]
War gabadhaan naga qabta.[/quote]

I second that. xageey katimid inantan yar oo seyf laboodka ah?

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:19 pm

Did I insult anyone? I was just saying what shekh ibn baz said, he is a well know respected mufte Allah ha unaxariisto , save you insulting you have some personal issues wallahi I don’t even know what it is .. Alle ha ina soo hadeyo jamican Allahuma Ameen. If u have anything to add regard this Topic plz do .. Fe aman Allah

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Postby *Proud_Muslimah* » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:31 pm

Assalamu Alaikum,

"sadaqo Allahul-'A'theem" IS bid'ca afterall, JazakumAllahu kairan sis..learnt something new Smile

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Postby Cawar » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:01 am

As far as I am concerned , you could say Tabaaraka Laahu Caza Wa Jal, or Maashaa Allaah or give Allah any deserving praise after reciting the Quraan. Whats wrong with that even if the prophet didnt do so?

Somlisiz,

I am sure you are an intelligent girl, so a word of advice dont just take everything you hear to the heart, first think why would be Bid'a , what makes it wrong, cos Allah SWT said everything for a reason.... and if it doesnt make sense, then stick with what you think is right, not what sheikh Baz or sheikh fulaan said.


Proud ,

the same goes for you.

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Postby *Proud_Muslimah* » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:09 am

Assalamu Alaikum,

Cawar, anything the Prophet (saw) did NOT do is called bid'ca...since this is the definition for bid'ca, then I guess it would. I asked someone and they said it is.

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Postby COOL-MAN » Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:17 am

Proud the prophet pbuh did not use computers, is using it bidca? what do you mean by anything the prophet did not do is bidca?

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Postby dhuusa_deer » Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:20 am

[quote="COOL-MAN"]Proud the prophet pbuh did not use computers, is using it bidca? what do you mean by anything the prophet did not do is bidca?[/quote]

the prophet did use computers and he left instructions for computer technology in the quran. You kufaar pet, how dare you slander our noble prophet (saw). Islam is answer, quran is the source of all knowledge and THAT IS THE TRUTH. SO BUZZ OFF, YOU KAFIR IMITATOR!!!!

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Postby COOL-MAN » Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:32 am

NO ONE ADDRESSED YOU DHUUSO, HOLD YOUR HORSE DUDE.


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