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The origin of the term SOMALIA

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The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby paidmonk » Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:50 pm

Me and my bro were arguing about the origin of the name Somalia and he was on about how Italians first used it in common vocab , etc.

Amidst the chaos of the conversation, my dad chimes in from the corner and says, "The name has been coined previously, the Arabs referred to us by As-Sumal long before colonialism. The name was first coined when Hatshepsut made her expedition to the Land of Punt (this is recorded fact). During her expedition, she saw large herds of camels and started to associate the people with camels. She said to a camel herder one day, "Soo maal" which means Milk it, that phrase would be used so extensively during her journey that it became the adopted name for that group."

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Discuss. I looked up what my dad said and Hatshepsut did in fact visit the Land of Punt and brought back myrhh, which is native to Somalia among a few other regions nearby.

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Voltage » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:16 pm

Somali = Somali people

ia = greek/latin suffix meaning land of

Somalia = land of the Somali = Somaliland


Ethiopia = land of the burnt faces
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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby snoop12 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:25 pm

the term "Somali" is Somali right ? or is the real deal just "Somal", what ever it is we need to obtain the original and use that name instead of Somalia.

by the way is Somalia true definition, "the land of, Go milk" ? Loool.

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Jamiroquai » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:34 pm

Somali originated from two brothers one called som the other mal.

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Navy9 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:36 pm

This would have been interesting if I could only find a book which talks about it!!!
سبب تسمية الصومال بهدا اللقب حدث في عام 581 ه خمس مائة ووحد و ثمانين هجريه حيث امر الملك الحبشي في دالك الزمان اميرً من قومه على جيوش غزيره امره على ساحل البحر من زيلع وقد كان هدا اسم مملكة اسلاميه كانت تحكم من الصومال الى السودان شمالاً وجنوباً اما غرباً امتدت الى الحبشه كلها وقد انتهى هدا الاسم بمدينه كانت تقع في في شمال الصومال وبالتحديد شرق جيبوتي داخل الحدود الصوماليه وقد تكلم عنها ابن بطوطه في كتابه كونه زارها ولاكنها اندثرت الان بسبب الاستعمار البرتغالي كونها كانت قلب مملكة زيلع واسمها وكان يكثر فيها العلم .


نعود الى موضوعنا فكان اسم هدا الامير هو صوما ابن تسمه النجاشي(معنى النجاشي بلغة الاحباش اي الملك وليس النجاشي الدي اسلم في عهد الرسول (ص)) فسميت الارض باسم ارض صوما بتشديد الميم وفتحها وسكون الها فزيد في دالك و قيل ارض صومال فغلب على اهل هده الارض هدا الاسم .

وليس هدا بالغريب كون ان الارض تسمى باسم اميرها حيث ان اسم مصر كانت تسما في الزمان القديم قبل الاسلام ارض بابليون الحميري فلما وليها عمرو ذور ياش الحميري بنا بها مدينه عظيمه وطرح بها اميرً من طرفه وهو ابنه مصر ابن عمرو ذورياش الحميري فغلب عليها لقب الامير مصر الي يومنا هذا. حتىذكرها الله سبحانه في قوله تعالي على لسان يوسف عليه وعلى نبينا الصلاة والسلام (ادخلو مصر انشاء الله امنين) وقوله تعالى لبني اسرئيل (اهبطو مصر فان لكم ما سئلتم) ولم تُدكر انها ارض فرعون .

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby FAH1223 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:41 pm

In a nutshell, the Arabs were there, heard these nomads yelling "War SOOMAAL" for the milk and went back home to the Arab world and said "hey we went to Al-Somaal"

oh and lugha is feminine followed somalia

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby BlackVelvet » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:46 pm

In a nutshell, the Arabs were there, heard these nomads yelling "War SOOMAAL" for the milk and went back home to the Arab world and said "hey we went to Al-Somaal"
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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Navy9 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:49 pm

horta when the mongals invaded iraq they used the books of the Bait al-Hikma library as a bridge for their armies and thus a huge chunk of history was destroyed, I wonder did the same thing happen to Somalia, not two Somalis seem to agree on one thing about their history except for their camels and who should have the upper hand in the management of camel parking business!!!

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby FAH1223 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:06 pm

horta when the mongals invaded iraq they used the books of the Bait al-Hikma library as a bridge for their armies and thus a huge chunk of history was destroyed, I wonder did the same thing happen to Somalia, not two Somalis seem to agree on one thing about their history except for their camels and who should have the upper hand in the management of camel parking business!!!
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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby greenday » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:11 pm

I would like to think it meant somthing far more interesting than just "milk it".

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby snoop12 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:37 pm

greenday if you know what camels mean to Somalis you would have no objections in the name. Somalis flirt with camels in their poems, they cry about them in their stories, they brag about them, they even fight over them. dude the thing you would give your fiancee would be camels before given gold, to a Somali gold comes next to camels.

a man with camels is honour, respect, pride, strenth, wealth, big dik etc to the Somali woman.

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby greenday » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:44 pm

greenday if you know what camels mean to Somalis you would have no objections in the name. Somalis flirt with camels in their poems, they cry about them in their stories, they brag about them, they even fight over them. dude the thing you would give your fiancee would be camels before given gold, to a Somali gold comes next to camels.

a man with camels is honour, respect, pride, strenth, wealth, big dik etc to the Somali woman.

You cant even eat if your camel died! what good is it? and the mink!! yuuuk, i like eri more than geel. But i wont like my country to be called eri.

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Shirib » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:47 pm

So in old Somali means cow, like sac

Maal means to live off of.

Soomaal to live off cows, or livestock

Biiyomaal, the ones who live off water

Tumaal the ones who live off beating metal

Dumaal the ones who live off their dumaashi

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby ToughGong » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:52 pm

Dumaal the ones who live off their dumaashi
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I like that one

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Re: The origin of the term SOMALIA

Postby Shirib » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:55 pm

Dumaal the ones who live off their dumaashi
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I like that one
Haven't you heard of naag oo la dumaalaayo?


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