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The whole world has moved on

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:49 am

Below is Kazakhstan's capital:

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When do you suppose we'll catch up and beat everyone? :|

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Postby marcassmith » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:53 am

Astana along with Islamabad and Abuja are the only major capital cities built from scratch. These cities were planned and built in a very short period of time. So, in answering your question - if there is peace and some kind of resource or investment available, it shouldnt take too long. :up:

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Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:55 am

All you need is readily-available resources for others to invest in. I foresee Somalia as being the only food-producing/exporting country in the Horn if the current trends continue for growth in the farming sector. This will be a huge resource in the future. Frankly I think Shabaab is needed to cultivate that environment; it sounds scary, but in reality its not a bad idea; look back at Sudan in the early 90s, despite a radical new regime the stability they provided attracted tons of people from overseas including a lot of entrepreneurial fundamentalists running away from secular regimes. The impending political reality may not be all bad for business.
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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby marcassmith » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:00 am

All you need is readily-available resources for others to invest in. I foresee Somalia as being the only food-producing/exporting country in the Horn if the current trends continue for growth in the farming sector. This will be a huge resource in the future.
The Somali peninsula is hardly a bread basket of the world. Sudan has the potential to mass produce and even mass export agricultural goods. China seems to be investing heavily in South East African countries these days, in place like - Zambia, Mozambique and Malawi to produce agricultural produce for its own consumption and to sell to locals at subsidised rates. Gulf-Arab countries are also investing in Africa countries to grow their 'food'.

Somalis need to diversify and attract manufacturing jobs.
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Postby Paddington Bear » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:01 am

There are hardworking people all over the net who post pictures of new buildings in Somalia on a daily bases then you come here and show us a picture of some former Russian state and ask when will we be like them? Shame! :mrgreen:

Prove him wrong, people. Somebody post a picture of a Somali skyscraper (or failing that, a three story building).

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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:04 am

Somalia has moved on too:
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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby marcassmith » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:04 am

entrepreneurial fundamentalists
That's an oxymoron. :D

Like the role street merchants played in the Iranian revolution. :mrgreen:

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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:11 am

The Somali peninsula is hardly a bread basket of the world. Sudan has the potential to mass produce and even mass export agricultural goods. China seems to be investing heavily in South East African countries these days, in place like - Zambia, Mozambique and Malawi to produce agricultural produce. Gulf-Arab countries are also investing in Africa countries to grow their 'food'.

Somalis need to diversify and attract manufacturing jobs.
Manufacturing sector takes a lot of sacrifice, and frankly I don't think Somalis back home are ready to break a sweat; these same people were starving a few years ago while living on a river bed. If they couldn't muster the manpower to get together and farm without the help of Shabaab - which is the very lowest basic form of civilization - I think it will take even longer to have a thriving manufacturing sector with Somalis involved.

Thirdly, I think you vastly underestimate Somalia's natural resources and farming capability. Two major rivers run through Somalia while Malawi has no rivers at all. Somalia will suffice naturally.

That's an oxymoron. :D

Like the role street merchants played in the Iranian revolution. :mrgreen:
I don't know if you noticed but virtually all of Somalia's business community are Islamists. The Muslim Brotherhood built East Africa University in Bosaso, one of the largest campuses in Somalia, and Mogadishu University, the single largest university in the country. They practically built all of the public institutions in Puntland and Xamar.

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Postby abdisamad3 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:19 am

there wont be a beautifull somali capital as long as we have hawiye among the somali-nation..these people are like a bunch of wild monkey's..president mohamed siyaad barre left a beautifull well functioning city with everything a modern city of that time had..and they managed to turn the city into a big toilet in matter of no time..they looted everything and anything they could get their hands to and on top of that they shit in everywhere they go.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :down:

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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby marcassmith » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:38 am


Manufacturing sector takes a lot of sacrifice, and frankly I don't think Somalis back home are ready to break a sweat; these same people were starving a few years ago while living on a river bed. If they couldn't muster the manpower to get together and farm without the help of Shabaab - which is the very lowest basic form of civilization - I think it will take even longer to have a thriving manufacturing sector with Somalis involved.

Thirdly, I think you vastly underestimate Somalia's natural resources and farming capability. Two major rivers run through Somalia while Malawi has no rivers at all. Somalia will suffice naturally.
Monk,

You seem to suggest following a bottom-up approach, this is good but I don't think this practically possible. You can't just start from the beginning with subsistence farming. This model worked for the Europeans, because they were able to follow streamed-line form of development that allowed each level of growth to compliment the other. So for instance, the transition from manufacturing base economy towards a post-industrial service economy. The reality seems to suggest that large parts of Somaliland and indeed the former Somalia Koonfuria and parts of the Puntland administration do not follow this form of complimentary development. Instead, there seems be unstructured and organic form of economic growth, where for example you have developed telecommunications services and no production of goods.
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Re: The whole world has moved on

Postby Hyperactive » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:45 am

There are hardworking people all over the net who post pictures of new buildings in Somalia on a daily bases then you come here and show us a picture of some former Russian state and ask when will we be like them? Shame! :mrgreen:

Prove him wrong, people. Somebody post a picture of a Somali skyscraper (or failing that, a three story building).
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