Adultery!!!!!

[The Law26]

Proud

Forgot to comment about your new avator, it is cool and made me laugh.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

It's funny how most of you don't understand it doesn't matter what the hadith or Qur'an say. Stoning is barbaric. Period, end of story. There's no more room for debate on the subject.

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Assalamu Alaikum,

"What was the relevance of posting salat and zekat when we both agree that it was the souces of our Noble Prophet pbuh. I didn't get it. The prophet pbuh brought us a wonderful religion, and that is why we ought to follow Allah SWT's messenger who gave us Allah SWT Commands in the Quraan"

The point for posting about salaat and zakaat is that that fact that the method on how to do it...etc as well as other information goes to show that it was abrogated!

"A good question, but isn't worthwhile first following Allah SWT Commands?"

If the verses that talk about zakaat and salaat were not abrogated, how would we have known how to pray, pay zakaat...etc?

"Secondly, salaat, zakaat and more noble fard issues for Muslims came from the Sunnah/Hadith of our Prophet pbuh, and it never contradicts Allah's Commands, BUT COMPLIMENTS IT NICELY" If we ignore and deny Allah's words, aren't we altering very Words of Allah SWT given to us by his Loyal Prohphet Mohamed pbuh?"

The punishment for the unmarried person who commits adultery mentioned in Qur'an and the one that was later on revealed (the abrogation) to the Prophet (saw) go together hand-in-hand. There is NO reason for a married person to commit adultery since he/she is ALREADY married..besides isn't the point of marriage to save one from committing a sin such as adultery?

"If we ignore and deny Allah's words, aren't we altering very Words of Allah SWT given to us by his Loyal Prohphet Mohamed pbuh?"

Now THIS is a question you should be asking yourself brother

Again brother, re-read my post...especially the abrogating parts!

"Forgot to comment about your new avator, it is cool and made me laugh"

LOL...it made me laugh as well, it's cute and funny

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Proud
It definately beats the picture of the kid in the halloween costume.

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

One example would be the prohibition of combinin' two sisters:

Allah (Exalted is He) said:
And (it is also prohibited) to combine two sisters together.

The Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) clarified that this prohibition is not only restricted to two sisters only but also the prohibition of combining an aunt and her niece, paternal or maternal, as well.
Another proof that support that the Prophet was sent down as a teacher.

Allaah (Exalted is He) said:

Move not your tongue with it in order to hasten it. It is on Us to gather it (in your heart) and to recite it. So, when We read it, follow its reading. Then it is on Us to explain it. (75:16-19)

In the last sentence, Allaah (Exalted is He) reassured His messenger that he would explain the verses of the Glorious Qur'an to him.

"There's no more room for debate on the subject"

Mad Mac, yes there is more room for this debate but NOT you though..if you happened to have gotten lost, the door is that way

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

No B!tch, there isn't. Stoning is barbaric. Anyne who advocates it is a barbarian. Period, end of story.

[The Law26]

Salaam Proud,

You really made worried about you, what Method are you talking about? Human method abrogating the Quraan? What happened to the ayat that you said abrogated the punisment of Adultery? Are you jumping to another cliff? This what your wrote;

"The point for posting about salaat and zakaat is that that fact that the method on how to do it...etc as well as other information goes to show that it was abrogated!"

Expalining methods may take me to your school of thought and disecting it, believe me you wouldn't capable of grasping it. I have been there, and for Allah SWT sake there is no hadith that can abrogate the Quraan, to continue saying is that you are confident of other sources that are not equall only to prophet Mohamed pbuh, but his message was at fault.

Don't mix points, show us the slafai aka wahabi claims where hadith abrogated the Quraan in terms of salat and Zeka. And please don't qoute the Talmud and Bible, followed by Al-Baani hadiths. This man blieves in salafism rather than Quraan and hadith.

[Aiman]

=================الســــــــــ عليكم ورحمه الله وبركاته ــــــــــــــــــلام===========

"It definately beats the picture of the kid in the halloween costume."

Sister *Proud Muslimah*, forget what McInfidel has to say change that avatar is not suitable for a dignitory sister like you.

Wa Billaahi Towfiiq

[*Proud_Muslimah*]

Assalamu Alaikum,

"You really made worried about you, what Method are you talking about? Human method abrogating the Quraan? What happened to the ayat that you said abrogated the punisment of Adultery? Are you jumping to another cliff?"

And I'm starting to worry about your understanding of english, the method I'm talking about here (if you have not understood what I was talking about) is how to pray, observed times of performing Salaat, what will happen to neglected Prayers and what we are to do, how to pay zakaat...etc. These were NOT mentioned in the Qur'an but we know about them through the Prophet (saw), are you denying this?

Your arguments are baseless honestly!

One example (of abrogated verses) would be the prohibition of combining two sisters:

Allah (Exalted is He) said:
And (it is also prohibited) to combine two sisters together.

The Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) clarified that this prohibition is not only restricted to two sisters only but also the prohibition of combining an aunt and her niece, paternal or maternal, as well.

"Allah SWT sake there is no hadith that can abrogate the Quraan, to continue saying is that you are confident of other sources that are not equall only to prophet Mohamed pbuh, but his message was at fault"

Here you go with your false accusations again, give us a break brother


Again, I repeat, RE-READ MY POSTS...all these pointless questions you are asking are all answered in every single of my posts!

Aiman, don't worry bro...I have a plan for this avartar Insh'Allah, starting dawah at the UK section

Anyways, I'm off to pray Isha..Salam

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Pray that Go9d gives you some f-king brains you moron.

[SoMaLiSiZz]

my Quiz to Law is:



Can a single person that never been blessed with marriage and never knew the blessings in it “ mawadatan W raxma” never has completed half of his religion >> do u know the meaning of that >> never knew how it feels to have Allah’s blessing and his angles to have an intimate relationship.



And a person who has been blessed with marriage who has tasted the fruits of “mawdatan w raxama “ who has had the blessings of Allah ever time they approaches their spouse, flirts with them, play with them, coddles them, have intimate relationship they would only get xasanats and after xasanat after xasanan ect ect ect



Can Allah caza wajal give the same sentence to these 2 Muslims have the same verdict if they fall short and if they have a sexual relationship with a human they are not married to?



Is that what you are telling us ?

[SoMaLiSiZz]

The Law Remember you said you believe Allah caza w jal is Just ... So what is the Answer to My Quiz ..??


Fe Aman Allah

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

But the real question is, can a Muslim man love his kufr wife? God allowed Muslim men to marry Christian and Jewish women. So, it stands to reason that a Muslim man can love a Christian woman.

[intellex]

[quote="MAD MAC"]It's funny how most of you don't understand it doesn't matter what the hadith or Qur'an say. Stoning is barbaric. Period, end of story. There's no more room for debate on the subject.[/quote]



what do catholics say about adultary? forget about that what do they think about divorce well here is your answer ?

Merv Reinert wrote:
I am thinking about becoming Catholic, but I have been married and divorced twice. My friend said I need to see a tribunal. Also, I read the Bible, but can't find anything that says man may only marry once.

Can you tell me the scripture?

How does the Catholic Church decide what to take literally from the Old Testament, and what not to.

Lots of questions. I appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Merv


Answer: [ I am thinking about becoming Catholic, but I have been married and divorced twice. ]

Dear Merv,

Thanks for your question.

Your friend is correct. The Church as well as Christ Himself teaches against divorce and re-marriage. Here are the Scripture verses:

Matt 5:31-32

31 "It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a bill of divorce.’ 32 But I say to you,
whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and
whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Matt 19:1-12

1 When Jesus finished these words, he left Galilee and went to the district of Judea across the
Jordan. 2 Great crowds followed him, and he cured them there. 3 Some Pharisees approached him, and
tested him, saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause whatever?" 4 He said in reply,
"Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ 5 and said, ‘For this
reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate."
7 They said to him, "Then why did Moses command that the man give the woman a bill of divorce and dismiss (her)?"
8 He said to them, "Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but
from the beginning it was not so. 9 I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful)
and marries another commits adultery." 10 (His) disciples said to him, "If that is the case of a man with his
wife, it is better not to marry." 11 He answered, "Not all can accept (this) word, but only those to whom that is granted.
12 Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others;
some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this
ought to accept it."

Mark 2:2-12

2 The Pharisees approached and asked, "Is it lawful for a husband to divorce his wife?" They were testing him.
3 He said to them in reply, "What did Moses command you?" 4 They replied, "Moses permitted him to write a bill of
divorce and dismiss her." 5 But Jesus told them, "Because of the hardness of your hearts he wrote you this
commandment. 6 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female. 7 For this reason a man
shall leave his father and mother (and be joined to his wife), 8 and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they
are no longer two but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate."
10 In the house the disciples again questioned him about this. 11 He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife
and marries another commits adultery against her; 12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another,
she commits adultery."

1 Cor. 7:10-16

10 To the married, however, I give this instruction (not I, but the Lord): a wife should not separate from her
husband 11 —and if she does separate she must either remain single or become reconciled to her husband—
and a husband should not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say (not the Lord): if any brother has a wife who
is an unbeliever, and she is willing to go on living with him, he should not divorce her; 13 and if any woman
has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he is willing to go on living with her, she should not divorce her
husband. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made
holy through the brother. Otherwise your children would be unclean, whereas in fact they are holy. 15 If
the unbeliever separates, however, let him separate. The brother or sister is not bound in such cases;
God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband; or how
do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?


Notice Our Divine Lords says himself: (unless the marriage is unlawful). The question at hand Merv is were your previous marriages valid in the Eyes of Christ and His Church. If either one of the marriage were valid, in the Eyes of the Church and Christ you are still married. But how does the Church determine weather a marriage actually happened or was lawful. This is the purpose of a Church tribunal. The Archdiocese of Boston has written an excellent piece on this issue.

and you fcking have the guts to tell Islam inequitable yea right

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Who gives a fuck what the bible says? Here we go again, consulting crap written by morons a couple of thousand years ago for moral guidance. The people of the Middle East were even dumber and more barbaric back then than they are now (I know hard to imagine).