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Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

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Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:55 am

For those that insist on using their own proto-Hawiye definition of what's north and south in Somalia, let me tell you.

The north is simply former British Somaliland, and all speakers of Qaldaan dialect. By extension, the north also includes Djibouti and parts of the Hawd region. The south is everyone else except those queer Sijuis. Its the same reason why Florida is traditionally not counted as the "deep south" despite being the furthest southern point of the continental United States---now, the furthest northern point in all of Somaliweyn is the settlement of Caluula in Bari, but it is part of the south for particularly the same reason, and that reason is based on culture and politics. None of this is geographically relevant, it is only culturally relevant but it does have some geographic connotations. For example, when we Somalis decided what was north and what was south, we were using cultural centers as talking points -- the northerners looked towards Xamar, Mudug, and Waamo to define the south, which are in fact geographically southward -- they did not particularly look towards quiet Bari or Nugaal as examples, and those are the only two regions that beat the north-south theory as a strictly geographic one.

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Siciid85 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:00 am

Gee! Thanks paid you didn't have to do all that. But one mistake, I don't see how Djabouti fits into your little theory; they share no political affiliation with us.

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:01 am

Yes, but they share a cultural affiliation with you.

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Siciid85 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:06 am

:lol: Have you ever been to Djabouti. That place is more liberal than San Fran. :mrgreen:
WE are the cultural center for Somalis. Contrary to your ill concieved believes towards JSL; you'd find that If you want to find the decent Somali dhaqan you go to Hargeisa and burco. If you want to find bootay you go to Djabouti! tell me where is the commonality in that, Paid?

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby marcassmith » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:07 am

This essentialist analysis is no different from those of Orientalist like Richard Burton to define people and places they had no understanding off. Why use comparisons?

Also, if your going to do a general analysis and something worthy of commenting on - be objective, instead of skewing your analysis towards a Puntland-centric point of view.

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Siciid85 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:09 am

^Marcus this was never viable and fair analysis to begin in the first place. It's crippler by the father of self opinionated bile, Paidmonk. :mrgreen:

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby marcassmith » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:11 am

^Marcus this was never viable and fair analysis to begin in the first place. It's crippler by the father of self opinionated bile, Paidmonk. :mrgreen:
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Perhaps I have given him more credit than he is worth? :?:

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Postby Siciid85 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:14 am

nevertheless he is entertaining brother to have around. Sorta like that colorful character they find in circuses. :mrgreen:

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:17 am

Acudubillah, why are you two so offended? I am not even giving an opinion here, its just a fact. North is former British Somaliland, Koonfur is former Italian Somaliland. How can you be offended by facts? Will you be offended if I said Somaliland is located on the continent of Africa? :|

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Goljano Lion » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:22 am

Acudubillah, why are you two so offended? I am not even giving an opinion here, its just a fact. North is former British Somaliland, Koonfur is former Italian Somaliland. How can you be offended by facts? Will you be offended if I said Somaliland is located on the continent of Africa? :|
let's get the kaftan out of the way, but piadMonk is right on this one

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:25 am

Gee! Thanks paid you didn't have to do all that. But one mistake, I don't see how Djabouti fits into your little theory; they share no political affiliation with us.
Yes reer djibouti are reer waqooyi aswell :up:

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby King-of-Awdal » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:45 am

Gee! Thanks paid you didn't have to do all that. But one mistake, I don't see how Djabouti fits into your little theory; they share no political affiliation with us.
Yes reer djibouti are reer waqooyi aswell :up:
No we Aren't. :mrgreen:

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby RuralMan08 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:49 am

Reer Awdal, Reer Djibouti and Reer Awbarre, Dembel and Shinile are NOT Reer Waqooyi


They are Reer Galbeed :up:


We are not qaldaans please refrain from calling us qaldaans.

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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:28 am

Gee! Thanks paid you didn't have to do all that. But one mistake, I don't see how Djabouti fits into your little theory; they share no political affiliation with us.
Yes reer djibouti are reer waqooyi aswell :up:
No we Aren't. :mrgreen:
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Re: Let me teach you about what's Koonfur and Waqoyi

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:37 am

No, Puntland except Mudug is not part of the South the only reason they're part of Italian Somaliland is because they willingly worked and betrayed all Somalis by working with them extensively.


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