BV Come in.. poll is homosexuality

[SultanOrder]

Thing is though I think homosexuality is a state of mind

And what is your understanding of state of mind? Is being straight, or being attracted to the other sex a state of mind as well? Does one consciously make the choice of being attracted to the other sex, if that is the case then does one choose to be affected by the release of pheromones of the opposite sex, do they choose to have a physical reaction to certain body aspects of the opposite sex, and do they choose to fall in love with the opposite sex? Or do we have some greater control of these seemingly unconscious reactions?

Just curious, and sorry to put you on the spot, but your not the first to say something like this.

[Basra-]

PO


Dont mind BV---she is a lesbo, who knows, she is indirectly boasting about corrupting a friend. uuuf akhaas!




PS: Yes, i do think homosexuality is complicated. It is not a state of mind, otherwise a lot of homosexuals would have changed right away. No homosexal wants to be judged and looked down on. Fahaamtu>?

[union]

Homosexuality is genetic. Islam doesn't ban being a homosexual, it simply bans engaging in homosexual sexual acts.

[SultanOrder]

Basra @

Basra you bring up a good point, and a lot of people have suffered incredibly because of their sexual orientation, so wouldn't it just be easier to just stop being GAY then? Back around the mid century homosexuality was classified as a "mental illness", and so a lot of people went and sought treatment, but how much was that actually successful? Yet now it is not classified as such, where you are encouraged to accept it and "be who you are".

But have we really come to an intelligent position, where before it was completely wrong, and now it is completely alright. This dichotomization of the issue ignores some factors, what about people who were not "born" gay, but as they grew older because of certain reasons in their lives that being traumatic caused them to all of sudden become attracted to the opposite sex?

[Basra-]

"But have we really come to an intelligent position, where before it was completely wrong, and now it is completely alright."



PO

Coming to a point of saying homosexuality is 'alright' is not an intelligent position. My position on homosexuality is legendary here in somalinet. First of all, let me correct you macaan. Philosophically, i do believe homosexuality is wrong. It is a sin, stated in the Quran, very clearly. I do believe Homosexuals are born gay, and i do believe it is not their choice. It is a biological error that happen involuntarily. Now, a true believer would automatically, condemn me and call me blasphamous-because essentially by saying--homosexuals are a biological error, i am attributing a fault to Allaah swt as a creator. No i am not. I categorically deny that. I am merely stating facts. If you have a 4 or 5 years old boy---want to play with dolls, and have lustful thoughts for a boy--that is not exactly---natural is it? If you see a girl of same ages, want to play with a truck instead of a doll, and walks like a cowboy with oversized pair balls, its not exactly right is it>?

I do seriously feel the act of homosexuality is a SIN, as stated in the Quran. I do believe that one should abstain from homosexuality acts or lifestyle--and that it is a worldy trial or a test--Allaah swt is trying the homosexuals. The winner is he or she who worships Allaah swt and remain chaste.(but that is not humanly possible due to horny factor but try hard) You can view homosexuals as a crippled person or a blind person---would u say--Allaah swt is in fault for creating them? No, God has a reason for everything in this world. Maybe God does not want you to have children, therefore---he pulls out some string in your dna make up- and boom u r imbalanced, and boom u r not exactly normal, and start being repelled by the opposite sex which would have made u want to make babies with. But Allaaah swt has given us free will-- we can choose to sin or not. I say, treat homosexuals as humanbeings, let Allaah swt do the judging, for like the famous saying--Let who withous a sin--cast the first stone!

[SultanOrder]

Homosexuality is genetic. Islam doesn't ban being a homosexual, it simply bans engaging in homosexual sexual acts.

Then where does it stem from? Is it like any other trait where people have a recessive or dominant trait, and where two parents who have two dominant traits pass it to their offspring?

Also, just because Islam doesn't ban the actual person, doesn't necessary mean it denotes it being something genetic. It could be that it is a more complicated issue, with multiple factors, where culture, region, personal experience could have an effect on it.

[ToughGong]

Homosexuality is genetic. Islam doesn't ban being a homosexual, it simply bans engaging in homosexual sexual acts.

So it still Haram ain't it.There are other things which are probably genetically influenced to give predispositions to for example gambling or alcoholism .It also has been argued that it is programmed into men's genetics for them to be unfaithful to their partner. All these things don't make it the right thing to do, nor does it prevent these things from being regarded as sinful. Drinking alcohol will still be regarded as sinful in Islam even if you have a predisposition to be an alcoholic. But if you are to change for the better, you must remember the desires you bound up with your identity can become disconnected from what you choose to become.

Simple

[Enlightened~Sista]

Somalinet's resident lesbian Basra's specialist topic.Open another 100 threads about homosexuality and I can guarantee she will contribute a great deal to each and every one of them.

[Basra-]

[quote="Enlightened~Sista"]Our resident lesbian Basra's specialist topic.Open another 100 threads about homosexuality and I can guarantee she will contribute a great deal to each and every one of them.[/quote]



ES@LOOOOOOOOOOOOL







But ES---dont u agree with me? At least i am making sense. I am not promoting on condoning homosexuality but i do acknowledge it is not by choice. What is your opinion ? Do u have one? A brain?

[Enlightened~Sista]

Hold on... you didn't deny being a lesbian

[ToughGong]

Somalinet's resident lesbian Basra's specialist topic.Open another 100 threads about homosexuality and I can guarantee she will contribute a great deal to each and every one of them.

Add the words athiest mass murdering lesbians and she'll orgasm for week

[Basra-]

ES

I am not a lesbian. I personally cannot find myself laying down with a woman. The thought is useless and without charge. How can two batteries--two negatives make a charge? No, i need a positive and a negative to feel the groove. Ya know.




PS: But i do appreciate a true natural, raw, unadulterated beauty. Man or Woman. (no, i am not saying i am looking for a manage trois)

[Basra-]

ES


PS This kind of a man turns me on.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pitt_the_Younger

[DANGIRL]

ES


PS This kind of a man turns me on.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pitt_the_Younger

So you like a man that looks like a woman?

[Basra-]

[quote="seemeyer"][quote="union"]Homosexuality is genetic. Islam doesn't ban being a homosexual, it simply bans engaging in homosexual sexual acts.[/quote]

So it still Haram ain't it.There are other things which are probably genetically influenced to give predispositions to for example gambling or alcoholism .It also has been argued that it is programmed into men's genetics for them to be unfaithful to their partner. All these things don't make it the right thing to do, nor does it prevent these things from being regarded as sinful. Drinking alcohol will still be regarded as sinful in Islam even if you have a predisposition to be an alcoholic. But if you are to change for the better, you must remember the desires you bound up with your identity can become disconnected from what you choose to become.

Simple[/quote]


Seem


I think the fat brain cells in your head is stopping u from seriously thinking.


You cannot compare alcohol predispositions to sexual orientation. To compare them simply underlines your retarded idiocy amidst big fat roll cells in your head.

First of all, Sexual orientation begins in infancy, while alcoholism while yes--predispositions exists--begins in teenage years or early adulthood. Homosexuality is a hormone thing, while alcoholism predisposition is a mental disposition thing. Gambling is out of the question. there is no study that states it is predispositions. Yeah, there are economical gambling pre dispositions---its called POOR PEOPLE.

Homosexuality--is something u cannot turn it on or off. Especially for men--who are expected to have an erection at the point of copulation. For lesbians its ok---they can represse their lesbianism, all they have to do is---lay there, open their legs. and imagine of ellen degenerous or whatever butch 'athletic' lesbo in the swin suits calender that month, and let the innocent, clueless marehaan farrah hump away. (oooopss pardon to my in laws brethrem)