Well he wrote his famous story to inform al Ghazali about a thing or two, i hope to see them in the hereafter arguing^LOL, topics like this always end up about the religion. Who was ibn Tufayl? Was he an Ashcari?
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Well he wrote his famous story to inform al Ghazali about a thing or two, i hope to see them in the hereafter arguing^LOL, topics like this always end up about the religion. Who was ibn Tufayl? Was he an Ashcari?
If I had the energy I would read all seven pages of this thread, just so I can find out how from a starting point of homosexuality being a state of mind, you guys ended up talking about Schools of Islamic Theology!
And why is BV linked to the whole thing? Does she sing for the deep voiced section of the choir?
PO, Lakiin you still didn't answer by question about the repentance of Imam Abu Ashcari.
He use to be Mutazillah but when his teacher couldn't answer his questions, he renounced the Mutazila doctrines and repented from their beliefs and joined ahlul sunnah where he spent the later of his life refuting the Mutazilla and Jahm sects.Imam Abu Hassan Ashari use to be a Mutazillah and was trained and was their most promising student, but he started to have difficulties in their aqida and a lot of things didn't make sense to him. Eventually, he renounced his beliefs in the Mutazilah sect and joined the Ahlul Sunnah whereupon his intimate understanding of their doctrines was the lead in refuting their beliefs.
I heard he had a dream the Prophet Mohamed (SAW) pointed him to the error in following the Mutazillah doctorine .And becuase of this he had a complete change of heart litteraly, over nightPO, Lakiin you still didn't answer by question about the repentance of Imam Abu Ashcari.He use to be Mutazillah but when his teacher couldn't answer his questions, he renounced the Mutazila doctrines and repented from their beliefs and joined ahlul sunnah where he spent the later of his life refuting the Mutazilla and Jahm sects.Imam Abu Hassan Ashari use to be a Mutazillah and was trained and was their most promising student, but he started to have difficulties in their aqida and a lot of things didn't make sense to him. Eventually, he renounced his beliefs in the Mutazilah sect and joined the Ahlul Sunnah whereupon his intimate understanding of their doctrines was the lead in refuting their beliefs.
Abdalla/Navy9 this is a very good read
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/kalam.htm
Seemeyer yeah I read that too.
No can do PO, it was off line in my car about 6 years agoYeah, I agree 100% send me a link.
The guy was a muctazillah, then left them after he left them he spent a whole couple of months alone and introduced his own creed but hhe repented from that too and said i am on the aqeedah of Imam Ahmed.PO, Lakiin you still didn't answer by question about the repentance of Imam Abu Ashcari.He use to be Mutazillah but when his teacher couldn't answer his questions, he renounced the Mutazila doctrines and repented from their beliefs and joined ahlul sunnah where he spent the later of his life refuting the Mutazilla and Jahm sects.Imam Abu Hassan Ashari use to be a Mutazillah and was trained and was their most promising student, but he started to have difficulties in their aqida and a lot of things didn't make sense to him. Eventually, he renounced his beliefs in the Mutazilah sect and joined the Ahlul Sunnah whereupon his intimate understanding of their doctrines was the lead in refuting their beliefs.
The mutazillah say 'Allah mawjood bi duni Makaan' Allah exists without a place, does he say the same?Abdalla,
If you read Hayy ibn Yaqzan of ibn Tufayl (bwt he was a doctor, philosopher and lived in Andalus) you will see that Hayy through his reasoning he will find the Ultimate truth that Allah exists which was a stand that Muatazilah took but is he a muatazilah or ashari or followed any other school of Islamic theology, I do not know.
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