Question for the Suufis

[udun]

Please explain these things which some of the qaadiriya used to say backhome:

"Madad yaa Jeylaani agithnaa yaguuthu"

"C/Qaadir Jeylaani dhulka ayuu taako taako ugu jiraa"

Istaqfurullaah.

I have no intention of bad mouthing any one but it is some of things that some of the religious sects used to state. Please explain what those mean?

[SultanOrder]

go ask a somali sheikh

[grandpakhalif]

The blessed leader and reviver of Islam, Abdul qadir Jilaani xafidullah is a noble and blessed Sheikh, you are taking out of context the repraisal of this hero

[SultanOrder]

^waraa hold your tongue, you've only been a sufi for about 6months your still on probation, not authorized to speak.

[grandpakhalif]

You are wrong xaaji, I was born in a pure state of fitrah, but was corrupted by Wahaabi doctrine, alxamdullilah Allah has guided me to the straight path

[SultanOrder]

You are wrong xaaji, I was born in a pure state of fitrah, but was corrupted by Wahaabi doctrine, alxamdullilah Allah has guided me to the straight path

Everyone was born with a pure fitrah, it doesn't mean they have the correct beliefs and understanding

[udun]

Grandpakhalif,

All that Sheekh Mohamed Abdiwahab (May Allah be pleased with him) has done was to challenge and reject the non-Islamic and heresy practices that people were practicing in those days. If you really pay attention what he has done, you would know that he was an Islamic reformer who demanded that there should be a verse in the Koran and Xadith justifying any thing that people were attributing to the Islamic faith.

Ok coming back to my original question, what do Suufis mean when they state:

1. "Madad yaa Jeylaani agithnaa yaguuthu"

2. "C/Qaadir Jeylaani dhulka ayuu taako taako ugu jiraa"

I hope you have abandoned those claims by now but what was the original intention?

[ciyaal_warta]

one time me and ma friends saw a lady praying 2 a sheikh grave she was pregnant and asking him for a boy subhanallah and she was making all these promises ..it was near a place we used 2 play football back in wardhiigley i told her" eedo ilaahey ayaa la baryaa sheekhan asiga tiisa ilaahey la hor taagan ee isaga tag" she insulted me like ikhwanyahow gardheere .then me and ma friend told her remember in akhira we will be the witness in front of allah sw ..if u say nobody ever told me ..we left her while she was insulting us subhanallah

[udun]

Bro Ciyaal Warta, that is the Jaahiliya that some Suufis wants us to remain. Subxaanallaah, she told you and your friend like "like ikhwanyahow gardheere" while inisting her shirk

My questions in the topic is to get one Suufi to either give reasons why they said those things or see if they can denounce and state that it is longer practiced.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Well iam 1/3 suufi it means i only like dhikr and nabi amaan.

2/3 shia, i admire the love for ahlulbayt and the desire to get martyrdom.

And the rest salafi, for the monotheistic part. You see i only ask from Allah, no dead human weither he is prophet or not. I also agree with them " istawa ala arsh" issue and on if we should interpret ayats like ' Allah's hands/eyes' literally or not. You see i do believe Allah swt has Hands/Eyes but i do not ask "how". I say as 1/3 salafi: we acknowledge what Allah swt says about himself without likening him to the creation or asking "how".
Also i do not believe Allah swt is everywhere, but his Glorious knowledge reaches everywhere.and he sees while we do not see.
Hears us etc etc.

[SultanOrder]

^

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Kan yaree wareersan ayaa ba inugu daran, diinta wuxu mooday sida shaadh/shaati leyska bedelayo. Marna wuxu na leeyahay shabab ayaan ahay kolkaa wahaabi ayaan ahay, haddana wuxu tageera koox kale kolkaasna wuxu sheegta suufi.

Actually this applies to two people and they're both in this thread

[Cumar-Labasuul]

^

ninyow ha la qoslin, kani diinta ciyaar buu mooday.

[udun]

Cumar Labasuul,

Either contribute to the topic or stay out of it meesha nacnac hala soo gelin e. Waxa laga hadlayo makuu dheceen?

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Cumar Labasuul,

Either contribute to the topic or stay out of it meesha nacnac hala soo gelin e. Waxa laga hadlayo makuu dheceen?

Iga daba dhe: Ilaah hana soo wada hadeeyo