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does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby omar07 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:21 pm

Just see what's happening in Somalia, I'm hundred percent sure that there are nice people who want to make some changes and yet can't make the changes because
they have been influenced by the environment they live in. And looking at somalis in western countries, they would have been no different from somalis in back home if they never left.
So to my knowledge, we can't blame people making wars and qabiil threats against the others for one good damn reason, it's not their fault.

Kids taking guns fighting in wars, they have no option but to fight not that someone is forcing them but no way out. So does the environment has big influence on us or that's theory ??

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby union » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:25 pm

Genetics play some role too. :up:

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:28 pm

Yeah it does, but nothing is ever one sided, black or white. So think deeper about the issue.

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby Nucky » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:31 pm

In short yes.

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby Knight of Wisdom » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:11 am

No.

There are certain clans in Somalia that don't really belong in Somalia. They are fighting against the natives. :?

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby waryaa » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:32 am

does the enviroment make us who we are ???
The short answer is Yes. If you send one twin to Saudi Arabia and the other to Italy for education respectively, you will be amazed with the outcome. Bring them together after 4 or so years and enjoy their constant bickering. Identical twins, exposure to different environments :)

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby hamada12 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:55 am

waa sax enviroment wey saameysaa qofka ,somali dagaalada qabiil dadka khibrad ayeey ka qaadeen oo sanadihii ugu danbeeyay ilaa 2004 dadka waa ka caajiseen dagaalka waxbarasha ayeey bilaabeen horumar lakin dadkeena soomaaliya waa dad eey fududahay in la programe gareeyo lakin muda yar ka dib eey soo nacaan programkii mida kal waxaa yaableh sideey dadkii qurbaha joogay eey u noqdeen sida kuwa gudaha jooga ? waxaan filaa jaahilnimo fogaatay iney nahaayso oo dhan walba ah ,nasiib xumo isuma heysano inaan jaahilin iyo dad dunida ka haray inaan nahay ,arinta kale aan ku qaribannahay waa dagdaga wax kasta waxaan rabnaa inaan mudo yar ku dhameyno, fashil ayaana arintaas u danbeeya badanaa , enviroment bas maahee time lajoogo iyo programmer bannaamijka uu wato door weyn ayeey ka dheelaan soomaliya

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby omar07 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:58 am

As far as I read all the replies posted, everyone agrees that it does change and it has a big role. I have concluded that we can't blame people in somalia for grouping with al shabab , so call government...etc
because they have been exposed to only a place where they know nothing but what's happening in their surroundings.
Maybe some are smart than others, but I think what people in somalia need is a little bit of exposure
of the outside world, where people live in harmony with one another. Where there's fresh water, none stop hydro in their homes, free health care and walking out without being shot for being certain qabiil.

If Somali people had some idea of what's going on in the world, i think this would led to people to change their opinion
on things, perhaps their support for the wrong people and we can have revolution. And this would make somalia a civilized country

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby hamada12 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 am

waa sax hadalkaada lakin qofka qaladka suubinaya waa in loo sheegaa qaladkiisa iyo sida saxda ah ,wanaaga waa cad yahay lakin dad badan ayaa jira oo dana qaar wax u qaldaaya dhankey rabaanba ha jiraane somalida hadey wadan kooda xitaa sanad ka maqnaadaan ayagoo fikirki horay iska badalay aya soo laabta oo arkay waxa eey tahay nabada waxaana filaa soomali wexey ubaahan tahay wacyi galin buuxda oo xor ah runtana ka hadasha ,somaliya dadkii in la wareeriyay ayeeyna kala saari karin wixii fiicnaa iyo wixii xumaa wax yala badan oo soomali kusoo kordhay mudooyinkaan ayaa jiro oo la dadka sii wareeriyay

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby Cirwaaq » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:05 am

:( 20 years and running.

Imagine how much of the population is under 20years old and all they have every known is this!

Now imagine what the next 20years will be like?

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby BlackVelvet » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:02 am

It influences us yes but the argument comes down to whether pleading ignorance is an acceptable defence. No matter how we're raised or what environment we live in I think our conscience is innate and no matter how difficult a situation may be after a certain age we have the mental capacity to make personal decisions that are independent to our environment and for those we should and will be held accountable.

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby SultanOrder » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:53 am

It influences us yes but the argument comes down to whether pleading ignorance is an acceptable defence. No matter how we're raised or what environment we live in I think our conscience is innate and no matter how difficult a situation may be after a certain age we have the mental capacity to make personal decisions that are independent to our environment and for those we should and will be held accountable.
:up:

But your still so young :|

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby BlackVelvet » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:04 am

Ayeeyo are you talking to me :lol:

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby SultanOrder » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:07 am

Ayeeyo are you talking to me :lol:
Ina adeer you still have some time don't shorten your already short life.

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Re: does the enviroment make us who we are ???

Postby HELWAA » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:14 am

Yes, ilaahy baaba quraankisa ku sheegey qomka 40 haben meel aad la joogtid waad ka mid noqoneysa.


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