Abdisamad3

[XimanJaale]

Ok we are getting somewhere....for your records I have recently been to Gedo and I have seen the so-called peace and security al-shabab have created. They have created a peace where the citizens are shunt to silence, citizens are treated as animals, citizens are terrorised in their own country by their own people, citizens are forced to take part in so-called jihad why do u think al-shabab control so many land? They force citizens to pay high amount of tax telling them that it is the sake of jihad. They do endless crime to the citizens and I have seen them all and I was a victim of being jailed for 2 days for going to my uncles cinema to watch a football game in Garbaharey. Whereas TFG have had endless years of corruption because of warlord president cabdullahi yusuf which caused little support of TFG, which later on when Sheik Shariff leader of UIC came into power of TFG after Cabdullahi yusuf corrupted the TFG this made it hard for Sheik Shariff as TFG had loads of opposition, but because of this we can't stop supporting our own government.

[XimanJaale]

Al Shabaab exists cause the TFG failed, it failed time and time again. I thought the fact that 15 peace conferences and nothing has come out of it would prove something.

And secondly why do Somali's act as if we started fighting in 2007, and that Al Shabaab is the root of all evil.

Little history lesson for the kids

1990 Siyaad was the problem

1993 Aidiid was the problem

Then we were just happy with our clan warlords for a while

2000 it was the warlords

2006 it was Abdullahi Yusuf

2010 Its Al Shabaab

Reality check kids, Al Shabaab isn't the problem, the problem is us, and the fact that we don't have a solution. If we had an alternative to Shabaab we wouldn't have them. They would've of been destroyed along time ago.

For god sakes they captured majority of the country without firing a bullet, that should tell u something all in itself.

Al-shabab exist because of the breakdown of UIC. When Sheikh shariff joined TFG in Jabuuti to reconcile with goverment which Al-shabab called him a murtad and gaal just for being smart. P.s todays war and yesterday are not the same.

[The_Emperior5]

^^ why join something you wanted to bring down

[Shirib]

U got the first part down, second part is not for being smart but rather being a hypocrite who told kids to go to jihad so he could take the seat

Todays war wouldn't exist if we had fixed the problem in the beginning, but it seemed like everyone was satisfied supporting their qab qable and only became concerned about Somalia since Shabaab emerged

[XimanJaale]

^^ why join something you wanted to bring down

UIC main role was to abolish clan war and create Islamic ruling which they did, but they never knew to have this to work they have to be a government which when Cabdullahi yusuf called amxaaro it broke UIC apart, majority of UIC then realised that war wont be a solution but talks will. They went to Eritrea to organise themselves and toke part in Jabuuti election.

[XimanJaale]

U got the first part down, second part is not for being smart but rather being a hypocrite who told kids to go to jihad so he could take the seat

Todays war wouldn't exist if we had fixed the problem in the beginning, but it seemed like everyone was satisfied supporting their qab qable and only became concerned about Somalia since Shabaab emerged

Sheik Shariff was the leader of UIC and it is the leaders job to understand what is beneficial to his people thats why he took part in talks, and this kind of mentality we want from al-shabab to think of their people instead of doing stuff they want ( taking villa somalia).

[abdisamad3]

grandpa..i know allot about gedo.if i didnt knew what i know you i might have believed you..

[Shirib]

^^ why join something you wanted to bring down

UIC main role was to abolish clan war and create Islamic ruling which they did, but they never knew to have this to work they have to be a government which when Cabdullahi yusuf called amxaaro it broke UIC apart, majority of UIC then realised that war wont be a solution but talks will. They went to Eritrea to organise themselves and toke part in Jabuuti election.

U got the first part down, second part is not for being smart but rather being a hypocrite who told kids to go to jihad so he could take the seat

Todays war wouldn't exist if we had fixed the problem in the beginning, but it seemed like everyone was satisfied supporting their qab qable and only became concerned about Somalia since Shabaab emerged

Sheik Shariff was the leader of UIC and it is the leaders job to understand what is beneficial to his people thats why he took part in talks, and this kind of mentality we want from al-shabab to think of their people instead of doing stuff they want ( taking villa somalia).

Why did Shariif say no to Abdullahi Yusuf and then turn around and take his position? He coulda done everything he did without starting the war. But he declared Jihad, sent the country into war, and then said ok now I'm president, stop fighting everyone, and btw I have in place everything I told u to fight. Who on earth is gonna agree to that

[XimanJaale]

grandpa..i know allot about gedo.if i didnt knew what i know you i might have believed you..

Iam not grandpa! Caadi iska dhig.

[XimanJaale]

Shirib, cabdullahi yusuf resigned because of Nuur Cade and all people against amxaaro, Sheikh Shariff started the talks before Cabdullahi yusuf resigned, how did he knew that there will be a election as Cabdullahi yusuf had another 2 years of power.

[Shirib]

kowdi, how old are you

[XimanJaale]

Double post error.

[XimanJaale]

kowdi, how old are you

24, i know a lot about Somali politics because all my family were part of kacaan government. U speak may may yeh lol.

[Shirib]

My maay maay is mediocre in speech, but I can understand it all.


Now mr ximaan, AY resigning and Sheik Shariif coming to power were not two seperate events, it was all together, don't try to make it different.

Now here is the thing Sheik Shariif negotiated with the TFG for the removal of Ethiopian troops and for him to become President. That was the whole deal. If it was just to remove the Ethiopian troops he could have done that in 2006. Without anyone dying.

Shariif declared jihaad, sent kids to die, and then decided to go to a kuffar country while our boys were in jihad. Then he sas ok now I am President people stop fighting. There is no jihad.

[XimanJaale]

My maay maay is mediocre in speech, but I can understand it all.


Now mr ximaan, AY resigning and Sheik Shariif coming to power were not two seperate events, it was all together, don't try to make it different.

Now here is the thing Sheik Shariif negotiated with the TFG for the removal of Ethiopian troops and for him to become President. That was the whole deal. If it was just to remove the Ethiopian troops he could have done that in 2006. Without anyone dying.

Shariif declared jihaad, sent kids to die, and then decided to go to a kuffar country while our boys were in jihad. Then he sas ok now I am President people stop fighting. There is no jihad.

AY resignition was in late 2008 and Sh shariff effort of talks was during end of 2007. Futhermore Sh shariff never made deal with TFG, during talks they told him to join TFG and Dahir aweys was telling him to wait until amxaaro leave, sh shariff then told aweys to talk to the other split group (al.shabab) to join talks this process was happening when all of a sudden AY resigned, this gave easy option of joining TFG and Sheik shariff joined election, he came final with Maslax siyad but cheated because most parliament voters were from his group. When shariff won dahir felt decieved and made his own group now called xisbul islaam.