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Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:19 pm

Women in Saudi Arabia should give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes, two powerful Saudi clerics have said. They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be conveyed.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish "maternal relations" and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week's worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they're calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren't related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

"The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman," Al Obeikan said, according to Gulf News. "He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam's rules about mixing."

Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.

Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman's breast.

Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country's Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.

The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male "guardian."

Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a "breast milk sibling."

But under Islamic law, breast milk siblings have to be breastfed before the age of 2 in five "fulfilling" sessions. Islam prohibits sexual relations between a man and any woman who breastfed him in infancy. They are then allowed to be alone together when the man is an adult because he is not considered a potential mate.

"The whole issue just shows how clueless men are," blogger Eman Al Nafjan wrote on her website. "All this back and forth between sheiks and not one bothers to ask a woman if it's logical, let alone possible to breastfeed a grown man five fulfilling breast milk meals.

"Moreover, the thought of a huge hairy face at a woman's breast does not evoke motherly or even brotherly feelings. It could go from the grotesque to the erotic but definitely not maternal."

Al Nafjan said many in the country were appalled by the fatwa.

"We have many important issues that need discussing," Al Nafjan told AOL News Friday. "It's ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding."

Unlawful mixing between the sexes is taken very seriously in Saudi Arabia. In March 2009, a 75-year-old Syrian widow, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, living in the city of Al-Chamil, was given 40 lashes and sentenced to six months in prison after the religious police learned that two men who were not related to her were in her house, delivering bread to her.

One of the two men found in her house, Fahd, told the police that Sawadi breast-fed him as a baby so he was considered a son and had a right to be there. But in a later court ruling, a judge said it could not be proved that Fahd was her "breast milk son." Fahd was sentenced to four months in prison and 40 lashes, and the man who accompanied him got six months and 60 lashes.

The original adult breast-feeding fatwa was issued three years ago by an Egyptian scholar at Egypt's al-Azhar University, considered Sunni Islam's top university. Ezzat Attiya was expelled from the university after advocating breast-feeding of men as a way to circumnavigate segregation of the sexes in Egypt.

A year ago, Attiya was reinstated to his post.
sick motherfuckers.. :down:

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Coeus » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:22 pm

I heard this a couple of months ago on the news. WALLAHI THEY ARE SICK WAHHABI FU*** aL SHABABS IDOLS

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Postby Enlightened~Sista » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:31 pm

Of course it's sick and as shocking as it may seem it's actually in Sahih Al Bukhari.Make of that what you will.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby SultanOrder » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:34 pm

E-sistah what are you talking about, the women who breastfeeds you is like your mother, but adults are forbidden from drinking breastmilk, a husband can't drink the breastmilk of his wife.

I think this is some kind of joke. Not all women are producing milk so uhm this has to be a joke.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:36 pm

Of course it's sick and as shocking as it may seem it's actually in Sahih Al Bukhari.Make of that what you will.
breast feeding adults is in hadidh..well i dont believe you. :down:

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:37 pm

They didn't pull this out of thin air.They referred to sources in this case the hadith collections.

I'll look for it for you hold on.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:39 pm

e sis..i only heard about if some breats feeds you as a child who is not your mother then that women will become your mom but never heard about breast feeding adults.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby The_Patriot » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:41 pm

They didn't pull this out of thin air.They referred to sources in this case the hadith collections.

I'll look for it for you hold on.
Yeah but this time they are using the xadiths out of context.

If people would want to commit Zinna then even drinking a gallon of her breast milk will not stop it.

The Breat milk concept is not a contraceptive but a way of nullifying any legal marriage.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Mzbeautifull » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:47 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Imagine you are offered a job and they will not allow you to work with men until you breastfed them
saqajaan who even listens to what Saudi has got to say .. :ugeek:

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby anilweyne » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:49 pm

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.


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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Leila25 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:49 pm

Why are the poor drivers excluded from the breast milk, other than the men in the immediate family, it is them that spend the most time with the women in the family. Sheikh Al Obeikan is a prominent scholar, still surprised he came up with this stuff :lol:. Anything to get in the news.

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby The_Patriot » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:50 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Imagine you are offered a job and they will not allow you to work with men until you breastfed them
saqajaan who even listens to what Saudi has got to say .. :ugeek:
suppose you want to marry her and you cannot cose you drunk her milk I guess lust will take over and in the end create a bigger fitna :down:

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Enlightened~Sista » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:51 pm

I apologise it isn't in Bukhari but Sahih Muslim

Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared." [Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3425 - 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)]


In the Qur'an only children are to be breastfed , a mother can breastfeed her child for 2 years

Mothers shall suckle their children for two whole years; (that is) for those who wish to complete the suckling. The duty of feeding and clothing nursing mothers in a seemly manner is upon the father of the child. No-one should be charged beyond his capacity. A mother should not be made to suffer because of her child, nor should he to whom the child is born (be made to suffer) because of his child. And on the (father's) heir is incumbent the like of that (which was incumbent on the father). If they desire to wean the child by mutual consent and (after) consultation, it is no sin for them; and if ye wish to give your children out to nurse, it is no sin for you, provide that ye pay what is due from you in kindness. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is Seer of what ye do. {Qur'an Al Baqarah:233}
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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby Coeus » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:53 pm

Saudi arabia becoming corrupt arabia :down:

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Re: Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

Postby The_Patriot » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:53 pm

I apologise it isn't in Bukhari but Sahih Muslim

Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared." [Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3425 - 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)]


In the Qur'an a mother can breastfeed her child up to 2 years of age

Mothers shall suckle their children for two whole years; (that is) for those who wish to complete the suckling. The duty of feeding and clothing nursing mothers in a seemly manner is upon the father of the child. No-one should be charged beyond his capacity. A mother should not be made to suffer because of her child, nor should he to whom the child is born (be made to suffer) because of his child. And on the (father's) heir is incumbent the like of that (which was incumbent on the father). If they desire to wean the child by mutual consent and (after) consultation, it is no sin for them; and if ye wish to give your children out to nurse, it is no sin for you, provide that ye pay what is due from you in kindness. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is Seer of what ye do. {Qur'an Al Baqarah:233}

Thats one Xadith for a given situation but for Saudi it is different.

They Should aim at how they can reduce Zinaah not bring excuse for Zinah :up:


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