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[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]^^They are not making less sense, they are getting to you more and more. Just admitt it, sissy nigga. What do you consider khasaaro, xayawaan?

You abadoned your religion

You have abandoned your culture

You claim to be some1 u are not. U are a total fake. You are in the closet about your homosexuality and atheism.

Your lack of comprehension can only mean you fail all of your courses

You are stubborn idiot who doesn't want to learn anything new unless it's all lies.

You copy and paste. U are an intellectual theif who has been exposed several times.

I'M THE EXACT OPPOSITE:

I love my religion and culture. I excell at everything i do. I have a sense of humor. Every1 in my life loves me. I don't live a secret life.[/quote]

bozo,

what fuking religion are you talking about? you were born athiest not a muslim. you're only muslim becuz you born into muslim family. when you came into this world you had no believes what so ever. had u been born in Haiti, you would probably be preaching voodooism now.

[Mochatanya]

Actually dhuusa, Muslims believe that everyone is born Muslim. Even Jewish kids

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Mochatanya"]Actually dhuusa, Muslims believe that everyone is born Muslim. Even Jewish kids [/quote]

yes becuz it says in the quran by allah. we know allah said so in the quran becuz allah said so in the quran.

[Mochatanya]

Thats exactly right DD, that's what faith is all about! but you wouldn't know, would you...

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Mochatanya"]Thats exactly right DD, that's what faith is all about! but you wouldn't know, would you...[/quote]

and we know what is in the quran is true becuz mohammed said so. we know mohammed couldn't have lied becuz he said so. we know mohammed was telling the truth becuz it said so in the quran. we know the quran is telling the truth becuz all said so. we know allah is telling the truth becuz all said so...

Mocha, I still adore. no hard feelings, ok?

[Mochatanya]

No hard feelings, why of course, we WILL see who is right in the end after all, so why bother fighting? .. I call it Yawm-ul-qiyamah, you call it mad scientist proof... huh? what do atheists think will happen? i know the deadline already passed for the Earth to explode or whatever you thought would happen, so what's next for yall?

[LionHeart-112]

Xayawaan...EVERY1 IS BORN MUSLIM....apparently you have no idea what being a muslim is. Like i said, you are a stubborn idiot who will never get it.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]Xayawaan...EVERY1 IS BORN MUSLIM....apparently you have no idea what being a muslim is. Like i said, you are a stubborn idiot who will never get it.[/quote]

yaa kalab,

I just explained to you that a newly born child has NO believes of any diety. That by definition makes him/her an athiest.

Show me or explain how 'everyone is born a muslim'. I like to hear the rational behind that claim.

[LionHeart-112]

Ya loo7,

Every1 is born by Permission of Allah and every1 is in his Submission. Babies are considered pure and have no sins till they reach puberty at which point they choose what they want to believe. Yes their families influence their decision but they have no sins.

U will not get this of course because you don't believe in the existence of God. Without the acknowledgement of His Existence, why would anything He says make sense to you?

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Mochatanya"]No hard feelings, why of course, we WILL see who is right in the end after all, so why bother fighting? .. I call it Yawm-ul-qiyamah, you call it mad scientist proof... huh? what do atheists think will happen? i know the deadline already passed for the Earth to explode or whatever you thought would happen, so what's next for yall? [/quote]

there is no such thing as 'mad scientist proof' becuz the concept of prove doesn't exist in science. science is tentative and subject to revision.

what deadline are you refering to? where did you hear the earth will explode?

i think you made one too many visits to Islamofacists sites. maybe you should give real science a chance.

[Mochatanya]

hold on man, if science doesn't have something called 'PROOF' then how come you love it enough to reject Islam for it? you say Muslims are brainwashed because they believe in something without proof, but this whole freaking UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING it contains is a proof that their is a Creator whom we know as ALLAH

[LionHeart-112]

Any1 who compares science and religion is a raging idiot.

[dhuusa_deer]

LionHeart-112,

"Every1 is born by Permission of Allah and every1 is in his Submission."

Hey 'smart' guy, if you are going to debate for an arguement you gonna have to use sources other than contested ones. I don't believe Allah exists, so why are telling me what Allah told you in the quran. I want you to use your brain for a change and put together a rational thought following a chain of logic. Show how a new born is a muslim.

Everyone is born with no knowledge, not even sign language. everything we believe and know, we learn through experiences. therefore a new born child has no concept of god and has no believes. you are born as an athiest. all of us.

"Yes their families influence their decision but they have no sins."

families do more than influence. they teach you everything you believe. of course you can choose to disbelieve later in life, but your first introductin into theology is through your parents. period.

"U will not get this of course because you don't believe in the existence of God."

Is believe of god incumbent on proving simple obvious fact you are making. if you say emphatically that everyone is born as a muslim, surely you should be able to show how without needing god as your assistant.

"Without the acknowledgement of His Existence, why would anything He says make sense to you?"

becuz you are making the proposterous claim. the onus is on you to prove. saying i won't believe you reasoning becuz i don't believe in god is a cop out.

[LionHeart-112]

Arguing about the creation of Allah (swt) is like debating with a baby who can't talk. You don't believe in Allah, so the discussion ends there. If i don't believe in something then why argue about what it did or is?? Go read something then come back to debate.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Mochatanya"]hold on man, if science doesn't have something called 'PROOF' then how come you love it enough to reject Islam for it? you say Muslims are brainwashed because they believe in something without proof, but this whole freaking UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING it contains is a proof that their is a Creator whom we know as ALLAH [/quote]

becuz science uses inductive reasoning and NOT deductive reasoning. the difference being in the former you premise is accepted but depends on the strength of the evidence gathered. That is why science is about evidence and not proves. proves are for math and logic.

if you could prove a theory conclusively, then the subject that the theory explains is closed and never studied again. but science is ongoing process where old theories are continuously examined and redefined to make them better.

one example would be einstiens theory of relativity which gave better definition of time, gravity and space then newtons theory. but it did NOT discredit newton's theory, apples still fell from trees.

muslims are brainwashed not becuz they believe something without prove but something has no evidence what so ever. where is the evidence for the existance of jins, angels and hell? where is the evidence for the existance of god?

we believe in science theories becuz they explain OBSERVED FACTS. like gravity, thermodynamics, quatum effects, photoelectric effects, electricity...and so on. there is hard observable evidence that theories explain.

but there are NO observable facts that confirm anything islam claims. NOTHING.

This universe doesn't NEED a creator. To say there has to be a creator is to support cause and effect principle. Basically the universe exists as an effect and the cause is God. But we have systems in our own universe that need NO CREATOR. For example quantum mechanics -- you can not predict the behaviour of electron even if you force it.