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Warya i have no interest of supporting a region that will forever be under the shadow of Ethiopia. The fact that Somaliland has good relations with Ethiopia disgusts me. Meles zenawi is dirty murderer and there is no reason that after 2 decades to still be divided over the actions of the madman siad barre. He is dead. But somalinimo and midnimo shouldntBal ninyo nacasnimadada eeg. This owned Cagdheer slave wants to trade your freedom for his slavery under the illusion ofThis thread is disgraceful. Oxidant, i didnt knew that their was Somalis like you. Ethiopia is a aids infected failed state that is owned by US. And you want to us to accept that? Somaliland is my home, and i dont want it given to anyone. It is part of Somalia. And the beutiful white star on the blue flag represents our 5 big regions.
Dont forget that it was the Somalis in Somaliland that was the guys who started the unification of Somalia in the sixties. We will unite all our areas and habeshas dont stand a chance to Somalis. Never have, never will.
My alliegence lies withand you support it. Sxb, those who are opposed to Somaliland do it because of qabil reason and if we followed the misguided ambitions of the likes of you we would be back in the 80's. xb wake up and smell the coffee and put this
Bal ninyo nacasnimadada eeg. This owned Cagdheer slave wants to trade your freedom for his slavery under the illusion of
First of all this nonsense about S/L being under xabahsi influence is total bullshit. Secondly, who did Meles Zenawi murder? If you're talking about ethiopians then we don't give a sh!t, if you're talking about cagdheers we still don't give a shit because it was afweyne that signed away kilinka 5aad and if you're talking about somalis then it was aasha yussuf that invited the xabashis over to somalia. We're not gonna fall for that "Somalinimo" emotional bullshit. The truth is, these savages that have been eating eachother for 20 odd years don't give two shits about Somalia or "Somalinimo". We're more somali than the somalia and bintiland could ever dream to be. Every act of betrayal was commited by them; they invited habashis to enter their capital, they sold away kilinka 5aad, they bombed their own citizens and cities, they allowed toxic dumping in their ocean for some pocket change etc the list could go on.Warya i have no interest of supporting a region that will forever be under the shadow of Ethiopia. The fact that Somaliland has good relations with Ethiopia disgusts me. Meles zenawi is dirty murderer and there is no reason that after 2 decades to still be divided over the actions of the madman siad barre. He is dead. But somalinimo and midnimo shouldntBal ninyo nacasnimadada eeg. This owned Cagdheer slave wants to trade your freedom for his slavery under the illusion ofThis thread is disgraceful. Oxidant, i didnt knew that their was Somalis like you. Ethiopia is a aids infected failed state that is owned by US. And you want to us to accept that? Somaliland is my home, and i dont want it given to anyone. It is part of Somalia. And the beutiful white star on the blue flag represents our 5 big regions.
Dont forget that it was the Somalis in Somaliland that was the guys who started the unification of Somalia in the sixties. We will unite all our areas and habeshas dont stand a chance to Somalis. Never have, never will.
My alliegence lies with
Your talking to the dumbest section of Somali society. The topic starter is a prime example. The best route to freedom he believes is by putting free northern Somalis under Ethiopian occupation. With logic like that are you surprised they have been occupied for a 100 years.Before any deal the ethnic composition of Ogadenia should be changed.
Once this done,
i) annexe north somalia,
ii)make trouble in independant Ogadenia (ignite civil war) ,
iii) as a consequence those somali clans living close to oromos will ask to re-integrate ethiopia
The desert will be left for desert dwellers
On serious note:
The difficulty for Ogadenians is that as these times claiming somali nationalism is foolish for obvious reason.
They invented the Ogadenia nationalism whereas they are only 60% of the population. Its an ERSATZ nationalism.
Seen the intra somali competition, others will not easily accept any domination specially if ethios r around to fuel competition.
The best solution for Ogadens , is to throw any form of nationalism, take up the banner of Islam, make strategic alliance with Muslim Oromos.
In ten years they will become the Prussians of Somalis and a state around which somali unity might be re created.
I by no means is Islamist: my fear is a super Muslim Oromo-Somali Alliance.
B.
What do you expect, instead of going to the brain, all the blood flows into their big feet.Your talking to the dumbest section of Somali society. The topic starter is a prime example. The best route to freedom he believes is by putting free northern Somalis under Ethiopian occupation. With logic like that are you surprised they have been occupied for a 100 years.Before any deal the ethnic composition of Ogadenia should be changed.
Once this done,
i) annexe north somalia,
ii)make trouble in independant Ogadenia (ignite civil war) ,
iii) as a consequence those somali clans living close to oromos will ask to re-integrate ethiopia
The desert will be left for desert dwellers
On serious note:
The difficulty for Ogadenians is that as these times claiming somali nationalism is foolish for obvious reason.
They invented the Ogadenia nationalism whereas they are only 60% of the population. Its an ERSATZ nationalism.
Seen the intra somali competition, others will not easily accept any domination specially if ethios r around to fuel competition.
The best solution for Ogadens , is to throw any form of nationalism, take up the banner of Islam, make strategic alliance with Muslim Oromos.
In ten years they will become the Prussians of Somalis and a state around which somali unity might be re created.
I by no means is Islamist: my fear is a super Muslim Oromo-Somali Alliance.
B.
General. The reason Ethiopia supported SNM was not because we were "Isaaq" it was because Somalia was supporting "0NLF,OLF,TPLF" So they did play the same game as us. They were looking for who the could support in Somalia. And when the isaaq was being marginalized, they saw this oportunity to support SNM. It has nothing to do with us being Isaaq, only their interests mattered. Secondly Ethiopia will always be the enemy of Somalia, because of our strategic port locations and because of their ocupation of Ogaden. There are even isaaqs in ogaden under ethiopian massacre as we speak. I am not gonna support a couple of regions to secede from Somalia, so the country becomes weaker. It is very important to also note that SSC will not join somaliland. So what is the purpose of forcebly including our fellow somalis in a "country" they dont want to be apart of?Ethiopia has no beef with Isaaq's and we Isaaqs have no beef with Ethiopia, they helped us greatly during the war against the faqash so nothing wrong with doing business with them at all. If those same faqash are at war with ethiopia today, they should not expect us to follow.
Coues I my opinion you should not judge people on ethnicity or birth place but on merit, and if we apply that logic towards both Ethiopian and Southern Somalis, its clear Ethiopians are miles better. Just because a person is Somali it does not mean his better then an Ethoipian. Thats just plain dumb.
Btw, I agree the actions of Siyad Barre are in the past but the majority of those who you want to join actually agree with his actions today.
Ethiopia helped Isaaq's thats the bottomline, the reason behind their actions is secondary. If they helped us and other Somalis tried to wipe us out and today you believe we should hold hands pretend nothing happened and just jump back in the fire thats burning in the south today and save themGeneral. The reason Ethiopia supported SNM was not because we were "Isaaq" it was because Somalia was supporting "0NLF,OLF,TPLF" So they did play the same game as us. They were looking for who the could support in Somalia. And when the isaaq was being marginalized, they saw this oportunity to support SNM. It has nothing to do with us being Isaaq, only their interests mattered. Secondly Ethiopia will always be the enemy of Somalia, because of our strategic port locations and because of their ocupation of Ogaden. There are even isaaqs in ogaden under ethiopian massacre as we speak. I am not gonna support a couple of regions to secede from Somalia, so the country becomes weaker. It is very important to also note that SSC will not join somaliland. So what is the purpose of forcebly including our fellow somalis in a "country" they dont want to be apart of?Ethiopia has no beef with Isaaq's and we Isaaqs have no beef with Ethiopia, they helped us greatly during the war against the faqash so nothing wrong with doing business with them at all. If those same faqash are at war with ethiopia today, they should not expect us to follow.
Coues I my opinion you should not judge people on ethnicity or birth place but on merit, and if we apply that logic towards both Ethiopian and Southern Somalis, its clear Ethiopians are miles better. Just because a person is Somali it does not mean his better then an Ethoipian. Thats just plain dumb.
Btw, I agree the actions of Siyad Barre are in the past but the majority of those who you want to join actually agree with his actions today.
I dont care if some here praise Siad barre, Its mostly because they havent had any strong central goverment since the siad barre. That is why they praise him and ignore his dictator regime and the slaughter he caused. But any educated Somali can pick up a book about the atrocoties hes done. Even the current leaders of mogadishu knows that.
. No thank you. Ethiopia helped Isaaq's thats the bottomline, the reason behind their actions is secondary. If they helped us and other Somalis tried to wipe us out and today you believe we should hold hands pretend nothing happened and just jump back in the fire thats burning in the south today and save themGeneral. The reason Ethiopia supported SNM was not because we were "Isaaq" it was because Somalia was supporting "0NLF,OLF,TPLF" So they did play the same game as us. They were looking for who the could support in Somalia. And when the isaaq was being marginalized, they saw this oportunity to support SNM. It has nothing to do with us being Isaaq, only their interests mattered. Secondly Ethiopia will always be the enemy of Somalia, because of our strategic port locations and because of their ocupation of Ogaden. There are even isaaqs in ogaden under ethiopian massacre as we speak. I am not gonna support a couple of regions to secede from Somalia, so the country becomes weaker. It is very important to also note that SSC will not join somaliland. So what is the purpose of forcebly including our fellow somalis in a "country" they dont want to be apart of?Ethiopia has no beef with Isaaq's and we Isaaqs have no beef with Ethiopia, they helped us greatly during the war against the faqash so nothing wrong with doing business with them at all. If those same faqash are at war with ethiopia today, they should not expect us to follow.
Coues I my opinion you should not judge people on ethnicity or birth place but on merit, and if we apply that logic towards both Ethiopian and Southern Somalis, its clear Ethiopians are miles better. Just because a person is Somali it does not mean his better then an Ethoipian. Thats just plain dumb.
Btw, I agree the actions of Siyad Barre are in the past but the majority of those who you want to join actually agree with his actions today.
I dont care if some here praise Siad barre, Its mostly because they havent had any strong central goverment since the siad barre. That is why they praise him and ignore his dictator regime and the slaughter he caused. But any educated Somali can pick up a book about the atrocoties hes done. Even the current leaders of mogadishu knows that.
This Somalia you speak of that of the idealist 60's Isaaq's has never existed and will never exist. Every Somali thinks about his qabil before anything else. Ethiopia has certain issues with some qabils and those same qabils have issues with isaaq's. Why would we sacrifice anything for people who want to see you fail, Somalinimo? Please.
Man you Reer Yonis go and impose a scorch earth policy on the qurjiles and fix this SSC nonsence instead of chasing after people who day and night kill other Somalis and then tell you that you have issues with Somalinimo.
Ok man lets agree to disagree 
Why does SL think they were the only ones that suffered in the barre’s regime. I do believe that MJ’s were the first victims and you don’t see PL breaking away from the rest of Somalia cos of it. No they are building their region and hoping for a greater Somalia to become peace.
STOP being the victim that goes to ALL SOMALIA clans. It funny how everyone acts like the victims whether MJ's, MR's, OJ's, SL ect. What is happening in the south is sad and we SOMALIS should help them cos they are SOMALIS! End of story.
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