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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby gurey25 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:35 am

whats wrong with DDT?

the banning of DDT is a conspiracy to keep poor thirdworld countries poor and disease to reduce thier populaqtions.

Can you explain why the common approved pesticides and herbicides used today are all immensly more poisonous than DDT.

With most of todays pesticides you can bet sick if you handle them without gloves or face masks, and thery can cause cancer..

but with DDT you can EAT it and you will not get sick immiedietly, maybe liver failure a couple years later, but thats after huge amounts...

We should all use DDT, its the best thing out there, who the fuck cares if some birds die..

id rather save 1 million humans from malria than some birds..


the environmentalists care more about those birds than some useless blacks.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby udun » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:20 pm

DDT is a dangerous pesticide that has its devastating effects on the natural habitat and animals that live on it. It is a temporay solution that has far-reaching and detrimental effects on the environment. It is not only dissappearing birds but both wildlife and livestock are also developing illnesses due to the devastating effects of this pesticide on the environment. I have never expected DDT use will have a defense. The solution is not pesticides' use but a proper zoning system - the same way the British and Italian colonialists used to manage for grazing and to prevent deforestation. Successive somali governments did have a similar policies before the civil strife began and those methods should be revisited in my view.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby James Dahl » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:03 am

DDT causes birth defects and cancer and god knows what else.

The worst thing is, DDT is made in the west and sold in Africa and Asia. Even though it's illegal to sell it in America it's made in America and exported, just like Asbestos.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby udun » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:30 am

DDT causes birth defects and cancer and god knows what else.

The worst thing is, DDT is made in the west and sold in Africa and Asia. Even though it's illegal to sell it in America it's made in America and exported, just like Asbestos.
There is a new disease called "Barsuuk" that has affected people in Somalia within the last 3 decades. People attribute this illness to eating the meat of an animal that was treated with DDT. Doctors in Somalia did not have a medicine to treat that illness as far as I know.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby Cartan Boss » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:18 am

SSC regions have alot of seasonal rivers and lakes, the waters that come from the upper SSC(Hawd&Sool plateau)
flood the valleys of the lower SSC(Nugaal Goden/Nugaal Valley) twice a year.

James can seasonal rivers be dammed?

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby James Dahl » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:32 pm

SSC regions have alot of seasonal rivers and lakes, the waters that come from the upper SSC(Hawd&Sool plateau)
flood the valleys of the lower SSC(Nugaal Goden/Nugaal Valley) twice a year.

James can seasonal rivers be dammed?
Seasonal rivers can be dammed yes, though for seasonal rivers a levy and dike system should be sufficient.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby udun » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:43 pm

SSC regions have alot of seasonal rivers and lakes, the waters that come from the upper SSC(Hawd&Sool plateau)
flood the valleys of the lower SSC(Nugaal Goden/Nugaal Valley) twice a year.

James can seasonal rivers be dammed?
Seasonal rivers can be dammed yes, though for seasonal rivers a levy and dike system should be sufficient.
James,
The problem with that is how long can ground hold the water since the amount rain falls in Somalia is very small?

Does building of levies or dike system require that the ground should be cemented so no water falls thorough it and what are the sizes of these levies/dike systems??
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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby James Dahl » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:49 pm

SSC regions have alot of seasonal rivers and lakes, the waters that come from the upper SSC(Hawd&Sool plateau)
flood the valleys of the lower SSC(Nugaal Goden/Nugaal Valley) twice a year.

James can seasonal rivers be dammed?
Seasonal rivers can be dammed yes, though for seasonal rivers a levy and dike system should be sufficient.
James,
The problem with that is how long can ground hold the water since the amount rain falls in Somalia is very fall?

Does building of levies or dike system require that the ground should be cemented so no water falls thorough it and what are the sizes of these levies/dike systems??
I'm not an engineer so I am not qualified to answer a question like that, heheh. A dam could create an artificial lake with a seasonal river flow, but evaporation would eventually cause it to disappear I would think.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:55 pm

Somalia needs an extensive road and railway system before anything else. And I don't think you can build a useful hydro-electric dam for just $100 million.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby udun » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:05 pm

It is true that Somalia needs extensive road system but in my view a country of 9 Million does not need a railway system at this point. Building a railway will take away many truckers and their families from suitable means of making a living. We already have enough trucks and until we have an economy that can take full advantage of the railway system, there is no need for it at this point.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:51 am

I'm talking about a road and rail system to make it easier to move resources and commodities. If you are a construction company and you want to build houses/offices, then with a railway system it would be easier to move goods and material to and fro using e.g. cement factory in Berbera to provide materials to build in beledweyne or muqdisho or boosaaso etc. Any developmental economist will tell you the best way to lift a rural nation from poverty is road and rail infrastructure. If people are connected easily, it is easier to do business.

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Re: Somalia needs dams

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:23 am

If we say that labor is 1/10th the cost in Somalia as it would cost in say, Europe, to build a hydroelectric dam, a large-scale hydroelectric dam could be built for about $100 million, which is still a ton of money for Somalia.

Maybe with oil exploration and when agriculture gets going again in Somalia.
not true,ethiopia is building one now for cheap almost 1.6 billion and it took them forever to get the loan funds secured. the soonest we can have a dam is some 2 decades after the restablishing of somali states


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