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Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:20 pm
by The_Patriot
Coeues I would actualy want Sharif to sign of the Ogaden and lets see if normalcy would return to Somalia.

The Ogaden issue has been hyped too much.

The bottom line is Xabashi beleive that Somalia itself is part of Greater Ethiopia/Abysinia just like what Menelik said.
If it were up to you, im sure you would like Somalia to sign of alot of important thing.

xabashis talk shit. They even believe that loser selassie to be some sort of god.

The reality on the ground is, if ethiopians ever wanted to claim Somalia as part of "
greater ethiopia" they were is the gigantic ethiopian population in Somali lands?

Ogaden is west Somalia and nobody will ever sign it of.
Dude I wouldnt mind somalia signing off the Ogaden. But I do believe still the issue would not have been solved and Xabashis would keep on pushing the Somalis till they drowned them in the indian ocean.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:20 pm
by VybzKartel
A strong Somaliland is what Ethiopia fears a recognized Somaliland that is not dependent on Them.
:lol: :lol:

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:21 pm
by The_Emperior5
didn't Siyad bare sign of the ogaden in 1988 when he met with Mengistu haile maryam horta how can you sign Something off anad ba gacanta ku hayn :|

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:23 pm
by The_Emperior5
A strong Somaliland is what Ethiopia fears a recognized Somaliland that is not dependent on Them.
:lol: :lol:
its the truth walahi Ethiopia would want Somaliland to stop seeking Independence if Somaliland is recognized there will be 0000000000 influance from Ethiopia , but Stupid Koonfurians dont understand that

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:23 pm
by The_Patriot
A strong Somaliland is what Ethiopia fears a recognized Somaliland that is not dependent on Them.
:lol: :lol:
V though it sounds Ironic but there is some truth to it.

Ethiopia wants ports and if they recognised SL other regions and nationalities in Ethiopia would also want independence.

The other thing is no country is allowed to tresspass into a sovereign state with exceptions.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:24 pm
by VybzKartel
A strong Somaliland is what Ethiopia fears a recognized Somaliland that is not dependent on Them.
:lol: :lol:
its the truth walahi Ethiopia would want Somaliland to stop seeking Independence if Somaliland is recognized there will be 0000000000 influance from Ethiopia , but Stupid Koonfurians dont understand that
Waayahay! :lol:

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:25 pm
by grandpakhalif
coeus what if the ogaden region wants to become their own country i believe Ogadens consider to become their own country if they get independence do u have a problem with that , a port will not be a problem Ogaden have Kismayo
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU REPEAT IT THIS IS NOT A VIABLE AND REALISTIC STATEMENT!!!!

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:26 pm
by garoweboy
coeus what if the ogaden region wants to become their own country i believe Ogadens consider to become their own country if they get independence do u have a problem with that , a port will not be a problem Ogaden have Kismayo
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU REPEAT IT THIS IS NOT A VIABLE AND REALISTIC STATEMENT!!!!
check the arab guy awards :lol: :lol: you wont like it

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:27 pm
by The_Patriot
didn't Siyad bare sign of the ogaden in 1988 when he met with Mengistu haile maryam horta how can you sign Something off anad ba gacanta ku hayn :|
Yeah he signed it off in Djibouti but Mengistu still screwed him.
MSB lost the support of the Ogaden people (both in the Govt and also dismantling WSLF)and Mengistu did not uphold his promise of dismantling the rebel groups that were a threat to Somalia.

When Somalia's civil war started and Mengistu was also kicked out of Addis he bragged about having destroyed the enemy of Ethiopia.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:30 pm
by Coeus
coeus what if the ogaden region wants to become their own country i believe Ogadens consider to become their own country if they get independence do u have a problem with that , a port will not be a problem Ogaden have Kismayo
If the ogadens ever want to be indipendent then i would gladly support that. They have been fighting ethiopians ever since colonialism ended. They have every right to determine what they want. They could even keep what is left of ethiopia in check. However with their lack of infrastructure, education and political maturity. I think it would be wise for the to join Somalia, so that we could help then build cities and give their children a life beyond woyane soldiers raping their parents. This is were our priority lies.

Besides under the banner of federalism, there is no need for recognition. The ogadenians will rule their regions under the Somali flag. Just like nort Somalia.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:33 pm
by The_Emperior5
coeus what if the ogaden region wants to become their own country i believe Ogadens consider to become their own country if they get independence do u have a problem with that , a port will not be a problem Ogaden have Kismayo
If the ogadens ever want to be indipendent then i would gladly support that. They have been fighting ethiopians ever since colonialism ended. They have every right to determine what they want. They could even keep what is left of ethiopia in check. However with their lack of infrastructure, education and political maturity. I think it would be wise for the to join Somalia, so that we could help then build cities and give their children a life beyond woyane soldiers raping their parents. This is were our priority lies.

Besides under the banner of federalism, there is no need for recognition. The ogadenians will rule their regions under the Somali flag. Just like nort Somalia.

Lol but they will do just fine with out Somalia what can Somalia benifit them Somalia it's self is destroyed and in ruin every nation in the world has the right to determine their own future indeed i agree with you on that , i think it would be wise for them to stay as far as they can from Somalia. Why would they join a failed state why leave a gaajo country Ethiopia and join a failed state :lol: if ogaden do that they are really doqonku lugu sheegi jiray :lol:

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:44 pm
by Coeus
Saaxib its not possible for a failed state to take back vast land from a non failed state.
We will of course focus on Somalia first, but we will always maintain a policy that states that we dont recognise the borders of Ethiopia. Until we have the means and capability to secure Ogaden again, then we will support ONLF finanically and logistically. With all the liberation groups that exists in Ethiopia, i would say you dont need a invasion to make the goverment fall. Just support every fraction with financial aid. Just like we did with Eritrea.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:47 pm
by The_Patriot
Saaxib its not possible for a failed state to take back vast land from a non failed state.
We will of course focus on Somalia first, but we will always maintain a polci that states that we dont recognise the borders of Ethiopia. Until we have the means and capability to secure Ogaden again, then we will support ONLF finanically and logistically. With all the liberation groups that exists in Ethiopia, i would say you dont need a invasion to make the goverment fall. Just support every fraction with financial aid. Just like we did with Eritrea.
Dude you have a good vision but sadly it does not work like that this is not somalis of the 60's or 70's this is 2010 and in this era if someone has not sold your ass off then you are damn lucky.

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:50 pm
by The_Emperior5
This guy lives in a perfect world called utopia

Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:57 pm
by Oxidant
Again, people need to realize the people from the Ogaden are our brothers,

Issaqa are in the Ogaden,
Ogaden are in the Ogaden,
Issa are in the Ogaden,
MJ are in the Ogaden,
Marhean are in the Ogaden,
Hawiye are in the Ogaden

And so on

All Somalis in Somalia have a heritage link to the Ogaden, how can you support Ethiopia or don’t want the Ogaden when your bloodline is linked to the region.