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Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:57 pm
by Oxidant
Saaxib its not possible for a failed state to take back vast land from a non failed state.
We will of course focus on Somalia first, but we will always maintain a polci that states that we dont recognise the borders of Ethiopia. Until we have the means and capability to secure Ogaden again, then we will support ONLF finanically and logistically. With all the liberation groups that exists in Ethiopia, i would say you dont need a invasion to make the goverment fall. Just support every fraction with financial aid. Just like we did with Eritrea.
Dude you have a good vision but sadly it does not work like that this is not somalis of the 60's or 70's this is 2010 and in this era if someone has not sold your ass off then you are damn lucky.
How did Siad Barre sell of the Ogaden when he never had control over the Ogaden,
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:59 pm
by Coeus
This guy lives in a perfect world called utopia
saaxib i dont dream, i know the reality on the grounds. But that doesnt keep me from having a vision of how Somalia should be conducting itself.
I just wanted to say that
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:00 pm
by grandpakhalif
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:02 pm
by The_Patriot
How did Siad Barre sell of the Ogaden when he never had control over the Ogaden,
What do two disagree parties do when they want to make a truce ?
One of them has to backdown from his claim that is what MSB did.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:02 pm
by The_Emperior5
Lool you dont care about your own daroods what happened to riyadii sh darood aad ku riyootey
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:03 pm
by Coeus
Saaxib its not possible for a failed state to take back vast land from a non failed state.
We will of course focus on Somalia first, but we will always maintain a polci that states that we dont recognise the borders of Ethiopia. Until we have the means and capability to secure Ogaden again, then we will support ONLF finanically and logistically. With all the liberation groups that exists in Ethiopia, i would say you dont need a invasion to make the goverment fall. Just support every fraction with financial aid. Just like we did with Eritrea.
Dude you have a good vision but sadly it does not work like that this is not somalis of the 60's or 70's this is 2010 and in this era if someone has not sold your ass off then you are damn lucky.
I know man, but things are looking better the new year inshallah.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:04 pm
by grandpakhalif
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:05 pm
by The_Patriot
Lool you dont care about your own daroods what happened to riyadii sh darood aad ku riyootey
Emperior let him keep on dreaming he thinks that we differentiate btw the Ogaden and Jubaland.Ethiopia is a big fish while these are not even small fish but tadpoles.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:05 pm
by Oxidant
How did Siad Barre sell of the Ogaden when he never had control over the Ogaden,
What do two disagree parties do when they want to make a truce ?
One of them has to backdown from his claim that is what MSB did.
Menguistu still armed Somali factions, so the agreement becomes void.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:08 pm
by The_Patriot
Yeah thats what am saying somalis are naive and think that their problem is the Ogaden. But I would want them to sign of the Ogaden and see if they will be left in peace.
Surely never would Xabashis leave somalis in peace.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:08 pm
by Coeus
How did Siad Barre sell of the Ogaden when he never had control over the Ogaden,
What do two disagree parties do when they want to make a truce ?
One of them has to backdown from his claim that is what MSB did.
Siad barre and his counterpart never made an agreement to sell the ogaden or something. The agreement was a peace agreement that would ensure that they shouldnt attack eachother or support the rebels in the country of his counterpart. Somalia officially never accepted the colonial borders, this is known for both kenya, ethiopia and Somalia.
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:09 pm
by The_Emperior5
The patriot u sheeg waxad tidha Gobolka Ogaden belongs to ethnic ogadens all the way to Kismayo nfd Waxa iska leh Ethnic ogadens ila Jubooyinka No boon can come between us and Kismayo ku dhe
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:11 pm
by grandpakhalif
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:12 pm
by kismayogedojubaland
The patriot u sheeg waxad tidha Gobolka Ogaden belongs to ethnic ogadens all the way to Kismayo nfd Waxa iska leh Ethnic ogadens ila Jubooyinka No boon can come between us and Kismayo ku dhe
isku dir
Re: This is for all the Pro-Ethiopian Somalis
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:13 pm
by Shirib
coeus what if the ogaden region wants to become their own country i believe Ogadens consider to become their own country if they get independence do u have a problem with that , a port will not be a problem Ogaden have Kismayo
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU REPEAT IT THIS IS NOT A VIABLE AND REALISTIC STATEMENT!!!!
Emperior, check yourself, the Leysaan, Isaaq unity is what runs Kismaayo. The Jeberti's are just tools
